Improvement for the horse archer - IMPLEMENTED

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Improvement for the horse archer - IMPLEMENTED

Post by Alexander82 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:03 am

I was thinking about an improvement for the horse archer
We might stay in line with other mounted units (making it an heavy horse archer) or with the common archer (making it a horse crossbowman), Before starting to draw something i'd like to ask what you think about it
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by DoomCarrot » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:20 am

Possibly a marksman rider? maybe just a horse archer, but with one or two more attack, and one more range or so?

I just can't picture a horse archer with armor, mongols liked skinny horses :)
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by Alexander82 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:41 am

I think that a mongol archer might be a different unit, like the hussar
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by Alexander82 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:17 am

This one is a first idea if we go in the direction of the crossbowman
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by DoomCarrot » Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:07 pm

I like the look!

Although is it possible to load a ceossbow without standing?
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by Alexander82 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:44 pm

yes, some crossbow had devices with a winch that allowed this
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by DoomCarrot » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:23 pm

Ahh just looked it up I see.

And that looks good, maybe this upgrade would seriously boost the horse archers attack and maybe even add an extra range? I imagine it is much easier to shoot farther with a gun like device from horseback than a short bow
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by Alexander82 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:48 pm

I'd raise its range by 1 as for archer to crossbowman, other than this i'll leave the rest to some more expert gamer
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by Alexander82 » Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:11 am

i made it more armored, i think i might make its colo lighter to make it a different from the heavy lancer knight (i reduced the barding's lengt though)
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by Alexander82 » Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:58 am

Any advices for the look?
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by DoomCarrot » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:45 pm

Hm, I really like how its coming along!

Since he is armored, maybe he could get +2 armor or so from this upgrade? that would make this a pretty decent upgrade.
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by Alexander82 » Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:47 pm

I made its colors lighter
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by DoomCarrot » Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:06 pm

This is REALLY coming along, I made some stats for him:

Cost: 4
HP: 28
Attack : 6
Range : 6
Armor : 2
Pierce Armor : 2
Speed : 5
Sight : 7
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:23 pm

a heavier unit can not be faster.

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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by DoomCarrot » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:06 pm

..... Huh? :geek:

5 speed is the horse archers original speed, am I right, or am I totally doping out right now?

EDIT: Yeah his speed is 5? :?: :?: :?:
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:26 pm

yes, and should remain 5 - a heavy archer with armors can not go up to speed 6. But is see that it is ok now:
speed: 5
(or was this 5 always? - that case i misread something - sorry)

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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by DoomCarrot » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:27 pm

I said speed 5 though lol :lol:

Ahhh ok, our confusion is cleared up I see
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:28 pm

ok :)

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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by Alexander82 » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:38 pm

So, we should decide: shall we make it heavier with a bow, lighter with a crossbow or heavier and with a crossbow(as it is right now)?

This version presents a non-armored horse
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by DoomCarrot » Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:53 pm

I like the armored, crossbow wielding mounted monster idea :)

I just like the concept of basically a ranged knight.
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by Ness » Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:37 am

Stats

Hp 30, power 6, range 6, speed 5

I think at horse archer improvement should be light not heavy

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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by Alexander82 » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:38 am

Added a chainmail coif
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by Alexander82 » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:46 pm

added reins
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by TheBluePhoenix » Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:46 pm

Loved the image. Nice work going 8-)
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by Alexander82 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:34 pm

Daniel what do you think?
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:19 am

i think using a crossbow on a horse is weird.
how can anyone shoot more than one shot with that, on a horse you can not pull the string back - i think.

(i searched an found no such image on the net showing the medieval era.)

how about changing it back to normal bow?

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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by Alexander82 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:26 am

I know that a light crossbow can ne charged by hand, and an heavy one might require a pulley. Anyway i can make pne eith bow, as the original unit
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by Alexander82 » Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:09 pm

what about that?
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by COOLguy » Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:33 pm

I like number 2.
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Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:05 pm

me too, but the image needs some more polish - seems cartoon like or something.

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