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lance knight - IMPLEMETED

Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 3:11 am
by Dgkfadomo777
A lance was used for taking down cavalry and heavy infantry but really slow. So it could have bonus against spartan and knight but weak against swordsman and archers

Re: lance knight

Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 11:46 pm
by dust-n-steel
Nice idea!

Re: lance knight

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:44 am
by Stratego (dev)
good!
slow? it is mounted on a horse isn't it? so it should be as fast as a knight

Re: lance knight

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 5:15 am
by Dgkfadomo777
Yes sorry I meant to put fast

Re: lance knight

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 5:47 am
by Stratego (dev)
can you draw icon for it?
you can start from the current knight.

Re: lance knight

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 3:00 pm
by Dgkfadomo777
Um ok I'll try can anyone help me thogh

Re: lance knight

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:52 pm
by Stratego (dev)
email me and i send you the current knight icon.

New Unit - Lancer - IMPLEMENTED v0.998

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:35 pm
by ollie444
Like a pikeman, but on a horse. Image now attached.

Current stats:
Cost: 4
Hp: 20
Attack power: 5
Range: 1
Armor: 2
Pierce Armor: 2
Speed: 5
Sight: 5
Size: 1x1

Bonuses:
Archer: 50%
Cross. Archer: 50%
Pois. Archer: 50%
Long. Archer: 50%
Swordsman: 50%
Broad Swordsman: 50%
Samurai: 50%
Templar: 50%
S. Hoplite: 50%
Skirmisher: 50%
Skirmisher Master: 50%
Knight: 450%
Heavy Knight: 450%
Missionary: 450%
Chariot: 450%
Chariot archer: 650%
Horse Archer: 650%
Jeanne d'Arc: 450%
War elephant: 750%

Re: New Unit - Lancer

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:52 pm
by patroid
Hi
I think we shouldnt create more units cause
1.there are nearly twnty unincluded ready units and.
2.we should focus on the new versions cause i
want that they are included in play store and the peoples
That are talk in other topics leave the forum after
a short time cause they have nearly a ready game but
nothing happend.

Also i think daniel shoukd have atopic where he writw
What he do at the moment that we can help him
by this and now why he dont work on things
we suggested.

Also he is a little bit overrun by all this ideas.

Patroid

Re: New Unit - Lancer

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:11 pm
by ollie444
Sorryyyyyyy. :(
That's okay - I can't wait for age of fantasy. And Daniel is awesome for making these epic games! :P

Re: New Unit - Lancer

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:05 pm
by COOLguy
Good idea.
Patroid: good idea, we need to help Daniel more.
But I don't think the answer is to cap off all new ideas.
Daniel: Could you teach some of us forumers how to do some small coding to help? Like maybe what is necessary for new units. Then we could help you out a little bit by that, and you would just have to compile it in.

Re: New Unit - Lancer

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:59 pm
by ollie444
Yeah, I'd love to help out in this game :)
I already know some parts of coding, in Java and C#, but not in Android coding though.

Re: New Unit - Lancer

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:33 pm
by Stratego (dev)
ideas: dont stop them, they are ok here, only we will need to filter the bests out. and ALSO!: the image! if we do not have image than the idea can never get into game :(
coding: remote-coding-teaching will not work :)
new unitS: they are easy to put in, in FAQ i wrote about the bottlenecks: the image and the proper "balanced" (at least in head) stats. If i have them and seem good, than i can put a new unit type in 20 minutes (only configuration). (i do not refer to units that will need extra coding - they can take more time (like the siege tower with special abilities towed near to enemy walls)
ollie: coding: if you can help that is cool! (but only for free - this is maybe not so cool for you :)) i have some separate modules that can be implemented by anyone since it is not in the core engine, contact me in email if you can and ought to help me! thanks!

fantasy version: sorry for being a bit stucked, but i dont have the whole thing in mind, i made this version with the few clumsy units but it seems that it will need more concentrated design (not coding! but the units , races, stats, abilities, spells) design. Sadly here in forum i have no such in one piece, only many-many ideas/fragments (that is cool! and i am happy having them!), that are not coherent and can not be a whole game.

And also i am a bit swamped in my workplace.

So currently i am gaining strength to hit tru this wall of AOF stalling.

The only GREAT help could be if someone could give a complete game design (units/stats/spells/abilities all balanced), but i have no hope for such thing, since it is huge, and there are always differences in thoughts of minds - so i see that this must be ME doing that, and all ideas we collect here can only be additives of a previously completed/balanced code design. Like in AOS: i had to make the basis, so now it is easy to put new units - easy to compare to existing balanced ones. (like recently: chariots, ballista and so on).

But besides these, i must mention: in fantasy version there is the same big bottleneck! the images!!! :)

Good news: 2 weeks ago i have iterviewed a friend of mine having great fantasy experience games/cardgames (and so on), and i have wrote these on paper (i had no time to type in yet) - these thoughts could be a great help in building the design races/units/stats/abilities.

summarize: do not stop putting ideas, but try to keep the forum clean, so put ideas in proper places with proper "subjects" - because that is also extra time too keep it clean.

Re: New Unit - Lancer

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:28 pm
by ollie444
Daniel,
The very thought that I would want your hard earned money - of course I'd do it for free. :mrgreen:
But I'm not nearly as good as you. If I can help out where I can, that'd be great. :)
If a unit is fully completed (with the image, stats and everything), would it be helpful to write COMPLETE on the title?
Also,
Is your email the mezes zerotouch one?

Re: New Unit - Lancer

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:36 pm
by Stratego (dev)
The very thought that I would want your hard earned money - of course I'd do it for free. :mrgreen:
But I'm not nearly as good as you. If I can help out where I can, that'd be great. :)
Is your email the mezes zerotouch one?
ok! thanks! lets try it! maybe it will work. email me ( zerotouchsystems at gmail doot com) please to discuss it - thanks!

If a unit is fully completed (with the image, stats and everything), would it be helpful to write COMPLETE on the title?
I write IMPLEMENTED if it is in, you mean when here in forum it is complete? (we have image and "final" stats) if so do you know which is like that?

Re: New Unit - Lancer

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:53 pm
by patroid
Hi
Cool lancer image - please include him!!

Patroid

Re: New Unit - Lancer

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:06 pm
by COOLguy
Good job with the edit. Very nice! :)

Re: New Unit - Lancer

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 12:37 am
by Dgkfadomo777
I tried to make a lance knight long time ago but it ended up becoming heavy knight see lance knight topic for more details

Re: New Unit - Lancer

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:31 pm
by Lancer
why are you creating me? :D

Re: New Unit - Lancer

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:19 pm
by patroid
Why we stopped here??

Patroid

Re: New Unit - Lancer

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:49 pm
by balint
lancer skill: charge

have 1 turn cooldown (after use, it can't be used for 1 turn)

incrase bonus against infantry by 1000% :)
incrase movement with 1

But

decrase armor to 0
decrase pierce armor to 0

what do ya think?

Re: New Unit - Lancer

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 12:29 am
by COOLguy
That's a good idea! Then he would not have the weakness of Pikemen but would exchange it for Arrows.

Re: New Unit - Lancer

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:56 pm
by ollie444
Yes- good idea but I think he should be more vulnerable to pikemen

Re: New Unit - Lancer

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:40 pm
by COOLguy
But he has a spear now, as a neutralizing factor.

Re: New Unit - Lancer

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:12 am
by balint
Actually, he has a lance wich is not neceserily longer than a spear, so the bonus is not so great, maybe 50%?

Re: New Unit - Lancer

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 9:10 am
by ejm29
Yep, I looked it up, and pike can be much longer than lances. With Pikes at 3-7.5 meters and Lances at 3-4 meters. So the pikeman could easy defeat the lancer without a scratch. :D

Re: New Unit - Lancer

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:21 pm
by COOLguy
Yep, ok. :)