unit - Winged Polish hussars - IMPLEMENTED v0.998

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unit - Winged Polish hussars - IMPLEMENTED v0.998

Post by Stratego (dev) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:15 am

from David:
Polish hussars ,or winged polish hussars ,was one of the best cavalry units in history.
I'll gladly see them in the game.They saved Vienna in 1683 from Turkish siege.

see different pictures below - armor,weapon,wings etc.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_hussars

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Post by ejm29 » Sun Nov 02, 2014 5:03 pm

They look great. :o

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Post by COOLguy » Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:22 pm

I tried a shot at the image. I assume, Daniel, that since you forwarded the request, you will be inclined to put in this unit. :) Tell me what you think.

Someone needs to make a map of the Siege of Vienna and put it in the Historical Battles section.
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Post by Stratego (dev) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:29 pm

the image is good!
i suggest
- removing on of the wings (especially the one that is closer to the head of the horse) the one wing on his back is enough i think!
- team coloring should be little more characteristic i think - if you color only the thin leather on horse head than it will not be enough i think.

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Post by COOLguy » Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:36 pm

I fixed him.
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Post by Stratego (dev) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:49 pm

coool!
i also suggest some modification on the rod emerging from behind horse head - is that a banner ? or a spear?
(unfortunately it looks a little like it was headpiece of the horse - maybe because the rider could not hold 2 things at the same time: 1 sword and a spear/banner)

maybe try it without the rod.

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Post by COOLguy » Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:57 pm

On the Wikipedia link, they were said to use bow + scimitar + lance. Here is without the banner/spear.
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Re: unit - Winged Polish hussars

Post by balint » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:29 pm

I have a nice scimitar image which you might use.
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Post by ejm29 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:48 pm

If might just be my phone not showing the image clearly, but what is the stick on his back?

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Post by COOLguy » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:57 pm

Balint: if you can make the scimitar look better, you are welcome to do so. :)

Ejm29: That is a bow/quiver. (I think that's what you are talking about.) ;)
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Post by ejm29 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:15 pm

Ah! Ok. :D

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Post by ejm29 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:19 pm

You might want to edit the bow a little bit, the arrows and quiver look great. But the bow looks a tiny bit like a antler. Probably just me

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Post by COOLguy » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:29 pm

Let me see what I can do. :D
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Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:29 pm

bow, arrows quiver? where? i did not see them :)

i suggest making it simple: we dont need to put many things on him
- take a bare knight or any suitable horseman
- change clothes as we need / even the horse equipment like you did nicely
- put a wing on the back
- put one kind of weapon into his hand
and we are ready.

my suggestion
(the more we put on him the less nice and recognizable it will be - i think)

dont forget!: it looks nice! but remove unnecessary stuff - i suggest.

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Post by ejm29 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:57 pm

Bows, battle axes, lances and hammers where used. (Look under armor and weaponry) :)

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Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:07 pm

ok but in 32x32 you can carry only 1 weapon :)
coolguy: dont forget that the wings can overlap the tile above! so it can be a 40x32 image too!

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Post by COOLguy » Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:38 am

:D OK. Sorry, Daniel. I guess I tried too hard for accuracy, and then you can't tell what he is. :)
32x40 with all spinning wheels removed.
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Post by Dgkfadomo777 » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:28 pm

Looks good :)

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Post by COOLguy » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:53 pm

Thank you!
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Post by ejm29 » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:07 pm

Thats a big improvement. Looks great. :D

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Post by COOLguy » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:11 pm

Thanks! :)
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Post by Stratego (dev) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:25 pm

SUPER! thanks! now we only need the stats for it! cool!

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Post by COOLguy » Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:50 pm

Thanks! :D
Sorry. I do not think that I will be much help for the stats. I am blissfully ignorant of much European history in the Middle Ages. :)
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Re: unit - Winged Polish hussars

Post by ejm29 » Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:18 am

Based on the knights stats, the Wikipedia entry and some editing I made some quick stats. Might be a bit unbalanced, but they are a start :)

Cost 6-8
Hp35
Attack power 12
Range 1*
Armor 2
Pierce armor 2
Speed 6
Sight 4
Action/turn 1
Spell resistance 0%
Size 1/1
Builders tc, stable, castle? (They seem royal)

They also seem like a special unit. Perhaps a ability would make them a bit different.

They said they carry bows. Maybe a week ranged attack?

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Post by COOLguy » Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:39 pm

I think they should be unconvertible as they are a "national unit". Like the Spartan.
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Post by ejm29 » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:34 pm

Good point.

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Post by Dgkfadomo777 » Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:17 pm

That would be cool, we should test these in developers version and make appropriate adjustments

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Re: unit - Winged Polish hussars

Post by COOLguy » Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:52 pm

Let us balance him to the Spartan, since he is the only other national unit. Obviously because he is mounted, the Pole should be very effective against the Spartan. So costing 9 turns to make maybe he is faster than a heavy knight and can mow down most infantry. His weakness is either pike or arrow.
Wikipedia said they used lances but there is none in the image.

But I do not really know what I am talking about. :)
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Re: unit - Winged Polish hussars

Post by ejm29 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:09 pm

Isn't the samurai a national unit? (Sort of) ;)

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Re: unit - Winged Polish hussars

Post by Stratego (dev) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:08 pm

dont get confused wit "national unit" feeling, you can have a 2 turn cost but special national unit also a 10 turn cost nationsl unit. turn cost an properties do not connected toe natinalism :)

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