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No order in the posts? I will fix it....

Post by Menselot » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:23 am

well all the units concepts - images - stats - stories - names
are messed up and if you try search the posts the only thing you get is confucion
so i will get the situation in my hands....

....pray to your God this will be difficult :?
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Post by Menselot » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:33 am

First issue:
1) Rune casters viewtopic.php?f=118&t=3531
and
2) Rune smiths viewtopic.php?f=118&t=3530

they are the same but with different abilities and stats !!!!

because the rune caster casts runes we might make him a simple runesmith mounted on an anvil of doom so he can cast those runes (make sense)

we will leave the rune smith as he is.

also there is a unit called
3) war smith viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2934&start=210
description: Unit that works both as fighter and worker
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well he might have no similarities with the 1) and 2) but i doubt it....
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Post by Menselot » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:37 am

The rune caster

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Post by Menselot » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:38 am

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Post by Menselot » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:57 am

Second issue:
1) Dwarven Crossbowman viewtopic.php?f=118&t=3520
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2) Dwarven Rifleman viewtopic.php?f=118&t=3513
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3) Musketeer viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2934&start=210
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Both 1) and 2) are "the main ranged unit"

2) and 3) are the same unit ?

Help needed so we can decide what will be done with this three.....
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Post by Midonik » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:12 am

The main ranged units should be a crossbow men.
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Post by Menselot » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:19 am

This is your opinion (i think)
i have to hear from others too...

but i agree the crosbows are more cheap and easily built compare to muskets and rifles
so i think it would be wise to name the crosbowman "the main ranged unit".
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Post by Midonik » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:23 am

No,I think that there were supposed to be basic from beginning,ralfiemen was proposed as basic,but all agreed he shouldn't be that common.
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Post by Menselot » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:26 am

yes as i said i agree with you !!!!
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Post by Menselot » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:34 am

Third issue:
Dwarven Defender viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2934&start=210
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Something like a panzer with an axe, really hard to kill and strong

Mithril guard viewtopic.php?f=118&t=4635&p=46415#p46415
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they are the same ?
Because of this i and alexander82 agree to merge the units ?
But work needs to be done....
I want to hear proposals about the name, the story, the images, the stats and the abilities (feel free to choose from the already existing ones).
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Post by LordOfAles » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:03 pm

Umm, no they arent the same. MIthril guard has abilities while defender could have more muscles
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Post by Menselot » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:10 pm

yes say that to alexander .....
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Post by Menselot » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:10 pm

we can still leave them as different units
we can vote of course what to do with them !!!
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Post by Skelegonsans » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:47 am

Maybe make them the same, they look the same to me
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Post by Menselot » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:45 am

They look the same but they have different lore and stats.
I agree with lord of ales
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Post by Skelegonsans » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:42 am

mithril guard looks like upgrade of regular dwarven warrior, i suggest to make it so.
dwarven defender looks like an unit of its own, an elite like the uruks for orcs / dragons for humans.
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Post by Menselot » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:08 pm

This is an awesome idea skelegonsans !!!
I will change his stats at the original post.
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Post by Menselot » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:11 pm

Any opinions about the first issue ?
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Post by LordOfAles » Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:37 pm

I personally don't like the idea of mithril dwarves being an upgrade of regular ones. Mithril is a high vauled, rare ore. Only the chosen can wear it, not just any soldier that comes around. In Middle-Earth lore only elite dwarven guard could have wore that armor.
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Post by Menselot » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:15 pm

Let's make a poll !!!
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Post by LordOfAles » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:25 pm

I want to make this quick.

Write:

1- for mithril guards being an independent unit. [4]
2- for mithril guards being an upgrade of normal warrior. [0]
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Post by Typhoon » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:37 pm

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Post by Menselot » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:39 pm

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Post by makazuwr32 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:40 pm

Of course 1.
Because Dwarves already will have a plenty amount of blacksmith-type upgrades and they don't need much upgrades for units themself into more powerful variants.
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Post by LordOfAles » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:47 pm

So yeah, number 1 wins
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Post by Menselot » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:17 pm

Heroic victory for the mithril guard independence !!!!

Ok now we have to decide about his abilities.
The options are:
1)We will add (some of) them at the tech tree?
2)Remove them [color=#BF0000]BURN THEM[/color] !!!
3)Leave the unit as it is from the original post.
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Post by makazuwr32 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:33 pm

Definately mithril guard RIGHT NOW doesn't need any abilities at all.
He already has great stats for 5 turn unit (higher actually than elven sentinel in base!) And he can get strenghten buff, trample and double strike which transfowms him into real killing machine.
Later we will see. Personally i don't see any reasons for addition to mithril guards any abilities.
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Post by Menselot » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:43 pm

Still i would like to see an expensive tech for the adittion of blasting charges to give the unit more character
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Post by Skelegonsans » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:25 am

well then, change the sprite of mithril guard then because it REALLY looks like an upgrade of regular warrior. but other than that it would be understandable to make it a separate unit
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