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Stumtiger (German) IMPLMENTED

Post by Belfry777 » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:38 pm

This special tank was a modified version of the "tiger tank" thus it's name (stum-tiger) this tank should tank heavy tanks tech, and 5 turns to build in my opinion. Also this tank is very weird!

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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Midonik » Fri Mar 16, 2018 5:14 pm

Its self-propelled artillery version of tiger,right? It might be good rival for sp kv-2 then.
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Belfry777 » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:25 am

I think you mean the kv-2 spg, and yes I think it could be a good counter to the Russians.
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:16 am

TO JUSTICE

What about the stats
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Belfry777 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:05 am

Well the stats should be the same as the tiger. But remember the gun was as big as a battle ship gun!! And with a shocking range of 120 km (75 miles) I now think of supper heavy tank construction. I will have the stats of this tank soon.
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:53 am

Good effort,i will try the image till then...
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Belfry777 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:23 am

Here I will relieve you of the task, you do the German jet.

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Here it is take one!
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by samuelch » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:46 am

This is my try based from your image.
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Belfry777 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:17 pm

Nice! I tried to make it most real as possible by making it 3D but yours is better.
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:52 pm

So what about the stats?
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by samuelch » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:15 pm

The stats will mostly be the same as Tiger I. The difference will be attack power with area of effect, range, and speed.
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Sat May 12, 2018 12:15 pm

These stats are of Tiger 1
Cost:6
Hp:73/73
Attack Power:25
Range:1
Armor:8
Expl.Armor:7
Speed:4
Sight:4
Action/turn:1/1
Spell Resistance:0%
10% and 50% bonus against most units

I suggest these for StumTiger:
Cost:6
HP:80
Attack Power:(Should this increase,or decrease?)
Range:not sure,I think it is large ranged,so...5or6??
Armour:8
Expl.Armour:7
Speed:6
Sight:7or8
Action Turn:1/1
Spell Resitance:0%
Bonus,more against Heavy and Medium Tanks
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Belfry777 » Sun May 13, 2018 2:38 am

The stats listed need to be changed but look very good for a first try. First thing is the stumtiger did not have a long rang it was very short actually, next the power should increase, HP looks good however. Armor is good, cost needs to go to 8 though.
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Sun May 13, 2018 3:33 am

Belfry777 wrote:The stats listed need to be changed but look very good for a first try. First thing is the stumtiger did not have a long rang it was very short actually, next the power should increase, HP looks good however. Armor is good, cost needs to go to 8 though.
So these should be....
Range:3
Power:30
Cost:8
But,why are you wanting cost to be8,even bombers don't have so much Cost
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Belfry777 » Sun May 13, 2018 10:08 pm

The cost could go down if this unit requires super heavy tank construction, like 6, I like everything else though.
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Mon May 14, 2018 3:29 am

Then lets consider this final time:
Cost;6
Attack:30
Range:3
HP:80
Armour:8
Expl. Armour:7
Speed:5
Sight:7or8
Action/Turn:1/1
Spell Resistance:0%
Requires:SUPER HEAVY TANK CONSTRUCTION TECH
Bonus:Heavy and Medium Tanks
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by makazuwr32 » Mon May 14, 2018 5:21 am

One thing that i'm against is 3 tiles range.
After few modifications IS-152 (modification of SU-152) could shoot up to 7 km and stumtiger could only up to 3.5 km (NO 120 KM RANGE IN REALITY!)
makazuwr32 wrote:More power - no. More armor - it must have same armor as normal tiger.
As well as su 152 must have same armor as KV-1.

Base speed of su 152's projectile was 600 meters/second, mass of projectile was 100-200 kilogramms, maximal distance was 6200 meters.

Base speed of stumtiger's projectile was 250 meters/second, mass of projectile was 300 kilogramms, maximal distance was 3500 meters.

Power of su 152's projectile was 150x600=90'000 Newtons while power of stumtiger's one was 350x300=75'000 Newtons.
This means that even with lesser diameter it has better power.
Another NO is its speed. It is super heavy tank, heavier was only Maus. And speed is higher than for example PKZ-1? THEN T-34 must have speed of 8-12 'cause it's speed AND mobility (i mean moving without refueling) were much higher.

Also about tanks speed we need another topic.
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Mon May 14, 2018 8:16 am

Speed:Wiki says StumTiger was faster than ISU-152
Range:I have no idea what you are saying,you can check on wikipedia too,clearly,it was 120km/75miles
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by samuelch » Mon May 14, 2018 8:36 am

Both speed is same in wiki (40km/h). 120km is the operational range. Sturmtiger armament max range is 6,000m.
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Belfry777 » Tue May 15, 2018 4:33 am

Guys remember that Wikipedia is a no, no for info generally speaking. I recommend tank encyclopedia but for this case the link below should serve well, also the range of the Stumtiger is 120 km 75miles.

Link: https://www.google.com/amp/www.tanks-en ... r.php/amp/
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue May 15, 2018 4:47 am

That is operating range. There was no units which can shoot for 120 kilometers.
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Tue May 15, 2018 8:51 am

Logically yes.120km would have been to too much....
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Belfry777 » Thu May 17, 2018 5:10 am

sorry I meant that it could travel that far.
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Fri May 25, 2018 9:18 am

Wait......Is the same thing?(Combat Range And Operational Range)
Sorry,I am a little short of knowledge when it comes to tanks of ww2
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri May 25, 2018 10:20 am

Combat range - distance of shooting.
Operating range - distance of movement on its own.

Stumtiger has 120km operating range means that it can travel 120km on one fueling.
Max shooting (in reality) distance of this was 3500 meters - its combat range.
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Belfry777 » Fri May 25, 2018 11:26 pm

True, so we just need JSON.
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Stratego (dev) » Sat May 26, 2018 5:47 am

cool, Belfry would u rtry making it?

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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Belfry777 » Sun May 27, 2018 3:04 am

Yes sir! I would be honoured to do JSON.
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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Thu May 31, 2018 2:49 am

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Re: stumtiger (German)

Post by Belfry777 » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:38 pm

Dev! I have the JSON made to fullest extent of what I can do. Please find fault with it!
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