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Fiat M13/10 IMPLEMENTED

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 12:16 am
by Ankho
Hello,i here want to suggest a italian tank whose designed to replace the older ones tank on italian armies,So this is the wikipedia link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_M13/40
For Stats im not very well.Also,This is a medium tanks
This a stas of Panzer 4 Ausf.D
Cost:4
Hp:36
Attack Power:21
Range:1
Armor:5
Expl.Armor:5
Speed:4
Sight:4
Attack turn:1
So,for the Fiat M13/10 i trying to decrease the status a bit and increasing it too..
So,it will be like this
Cost:3
Hp:30
Attack Power:18
Range:1
Armor:4
Expl.Armor:4
Speed:5
Sight:5
Attack turn:1
(Sorry for bad stats im bad at these things)

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 12:45 am
by DoomsdayDragonfire
Sure, it can be done, it is actually on the to-do list, tho Itallians aren't a play-able faction atm but it can be put on map-editor-only section, can you make an image for it so we can start working on this for you?

Here, unlike the other versions of the game, we take base stats for units based on the results of "xls" formulas for a more realistic aproach. So you don't need to worry about that. :)

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 2:57 am
by Ankho
Oh,ok thanks.
Welp,about the image i dont sure i can make it because i am not too well on pixel art.So,i will try to do my best.And if i can ask what is the size of a medium tank image,i mean like 64×64,etc

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 3:48 am
by Puss_in_Boots
Image doesn't have to come first. I think Italians are dark grey-green camoflauge

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 4:33 am
by Ankho
Welp,i have trying to draw the images and it is very bad.So,i will just waiting until the confirmation of this idea is good enough or not.
After that i wi thinking about the image

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 4:34 am
by Ankho
Rly i cant draw pixel

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 4:59 am
by Puss_in_Boots
Trust me, if it has seen combat in ww2, it can be implemented. Not that new countries should take priority, but it's nice to add some along the way for map makers and future implementation.

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 10:34 am
by Ankho
Oh,okay it has been on world war 2 as the main tank of italy in the wiki.
So,i just now confused about the image...

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 1:28 pm
by Puss_in_Boots
First try. I like the tracks and turret, but not too sure about the rest.

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 1:48 pm
by Midonik
Oh the Italian tanks are all sweet little thingies, how cute.

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 4:19 pm
by Ankho
Oh!,it very nice thanks you for your image XD
(Maybe add some shading and shadow to make it more realistic)

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 4:38 pm
by Puss_in_Boots
You're welcome.

Defined the lines more, and reshaded a little bit.

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 7:13 pm
by Stratego (dev)
nice image! but i think we need some other "italian" coloring - this green seems to Us like imho

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 8:16 pm
by Puss_in_Boots
I was going off the two current Italian infantry in map editor. Yellow is taken by Japan, so maybe light grey unless anyone else has other suggestions?

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 11:53 pm
by Stratego (dev)
i know, i ment hanging existing ones too, we need a good color ida - maybe check in other games how they color them

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 1:21 am
by DoomsdayDragonfire
I'm ok with light gray, perhaps slightly green or yellowed... Btw, I always found myself thinking about "why Japan is yellow to begin?", they never fought on desert to have yellow... Italians in other hand used a lot that sand/desert camo on their stuff on Africa...

Perhaps we could switch the colors between them?
Italians can be that desert yellow while japan their dark bamboo green or a green-red mix.

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 1:39 am
by Puss_in_Boots
Okay, I tried a color scheme similar to Germany with its close to grey coloration. Is it perfect yet?

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 1:47 am
by Puss_in_Boots
DoomsdayDragonfire wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 1:21 am
"why Japan is yellow to begin?"
Ah well short Forum history lesson here, Lord of Ales decided to draw them by that yellow coastal uniform Japan sometimes clothe their marines in. I thought they'd look fine in white instead, but maybe that'd make some of their figures even more weird than just going with coastal colors.

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 2:00 am
by Puss_in_Boots
I forgot to edit one little thing, okay 2 things.

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 2:29 am
by Ankho
Welp,it a rly nice pic
And btw,i have scouting italian's uniform on world war 2 here it is
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform ... med_Forces
And from my opinion it looks like green with some greyish colour their uniform like a greenish grey

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 2:31 am
by Ankho
(Or whatever the colour name XD)
And i think the tank's colour match with italian uniform

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:51 am
by Stratego (dev)
Perhaps we could switch the colors between them?
Italians can be that desert yellow while japan their dark bamboo green or a green-red mix.
good idea! but idk how much jp units we have, i go look (not so much, attached)
Italian can be yello sure

but first please make a single example of the new suggested clors so we will see how they look side by side (i mean all nation colors, all with a tank for example)
(so please dont recolor jp units until we have found the new color for them - avoiding double work)

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:50 pm
by Ankho
I trying to giving orange colour on japan officer.How about it?

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:38 pm
by Stratego (dev)
not bad at all! but lets see another color (this is a little strange to a soldier :))

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 6:08 pm
by Ankho
:lol: Oh yes u right
I will try White-grey shading or maybe Red?

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 7:59 pm
by Ankho
I will do it later btw

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 8:01 pm
by Midonik
Red is a bad idea, there is a thing called "camouflage" that is an important part of ww2 warfare.

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 8:17 pm
by Ankho
So,something that can camouflaging...
Hmm

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 9:23 pm
by DoomsdayDragonfire
Puss_in_Boots wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 1:47 am
DoomsdayDragonfire wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 1:21 am
"why Japan is yellow to begin?"
Ah well short Forum history lesson here, Lord of Ales decided to draw them by that yellow coastal uniform Japan sometimes clothe their marines in. I thought they'd look fine in white instead, but maybe that'd make some of their figures even more weird than just going with coastal colors.
Eh xD

Welp, they actually used the white color on marines, and also had white uniforms for winter... Tho, i was reading that they army was kinda low on resources and wasn't able to give uniforms to everyone (or perhaps didn't want to), so some soldiers had to make their own uniforms and that made a huge gap in colors from the old khaki (light brownish-green/yellow color from the old ww1 uniform) to a dark green (like one found on their forests). As long it was following the design rules and under that green gap color they had it approved. Perhaps we can something in between those and see what seens to fit them better, or maybe go for the old khaki

Also that color for Italians is really nice. Is fitting like a glove as many sources says that they had used that greenish gray.

Re: Fiat M13/10

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 12:24 am
by Ankho
How about these colour?
(The blue ones is accidentally double-post)