The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post Reply
User avatar
Puss_in_Boots
Posts: 2362
Joined: Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:23 am

The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post by Puss_in_Boots » Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:27 pm

On January 15, 1943, The Pentagon was completed. In Arlington Virginia, it housed nearly 30,000 defense workers. Used as headquarters for the U.S. Department of Defense. They were tasked to help the U.S. win WWII.

Will serve as the United States' mega building, which can complete the research of techs and construct weapons of war.

I don't know if only one should be built for the entire game, because seeing 2 Pentagon buildings is just weird. It may have to take more turns to construct than an AoS castle.

Believe it should be seen as the upgrade that goes on the last slot of the very first column.
RED, WHITE and BLUE!

User avatar
Belfry777
Posts: 1633
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:34 am
Location: AZ

Re: The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post by Belfry777 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:14 am

I like this idea! Especially the build of one building is a good idea, How about 16 turns to build.
A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

User avatar
Belfry777
Posts: 1633
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:34 am
Location: AZ

Re: The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post by Belfry777 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:55 am

American - "Pentagon": cost - 16 - build restriction 1
British - "War office building": cost - 16 - build restriction 1
German - " Ministry of the Reichswehr": cost - 16 - build restriction 1
Japaneses - "ministry of war"(Japaneses): cost - 8 - build restriction 2
Russian - "National Defense Management Center ": cost - 16 - build restriction 1

link for american - "Pussinboots" Did a good enough job! ;)

link for the British - https://www.google.com/search?q=War+Off ... T7w6ztzz3M:

link for the Japanese - https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366& ... QkrI4EHk9M:

link for the Russians - https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366& ... fmabzpfadM:

link for the Germans - https://www.google.com/search?q=ministr ... 2l3tW2OQeM:

The stats would be in the same vicinity, power, boost range, Health and production. These units would be able to produce special units, "Heros". See link Below for more details on this!

link: viewtopic.php?f=58&t=5321
A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

User avatar
makazuwr32
Posts: 4045
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:29 am
Location: Moscow, Russia

Re: The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post by makazuwr32 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:04 pm

For Soviet mega building i recommend UralWagonFactory
Images of UWF
It was during war main research center for heavy weapons (artillery, tanks...) and they produced up to 70% of all soviet tanks.
Also it was a civilian building.
So i'm suggesting these:
1. Can reseach every infantry, artillery and tank techs.
2. Can produce all tank and artillery units.
3. Has 1 action/turn, ability to spawn every 2 turns money-courier-like unit near it to speed up research and ability to mend itself and near buildings (at engeneer rate).
4. Has no attacks.
5. Can produce hero units.
6. Limited to 1 per player.
7. Cost 20 turns. (it is more useful than Pentagon becuase it can produce all tanks and has researches for them)

I'm suggesting this because National Defense Management Center's Building was built in 1979-1987 years while this one was built even before war - in 1930-th years.
Specifically for not so genious persons
makazuwr32 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:24 am
IT IS ALWAYS EASIER TO CORRECT EXISTING THINGS THAN TO MAKE SOMETHING NEW FROM SCRAP. © by Makazuwr32™.

Stratego (dev)
Site Admin
Posts: 8781
Joined: Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:28 pm

Re: The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post by Stratego (dev) » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:37 pm

We dont have hero units system yet.

User avatar
Belfry777
Posts: 1633
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:34 am
Location: AZ

Re: The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post by Belfry777 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:08 am

makazuwr32 wrote:For Soviet mega building i recommend UralWagonFactory
Images of UWF
It was during war main research center for heavy weapons (artillery, tanks...) and they produced up to 70% of all soviet tanks.
Also it was a civilian building.
So i'm suggesting these:
1. Can reseach every infantry, artillery and tank techs.
2. Can produce all tank and artillery units.
3. Has 1 action/turn, ability to spawn every 2 turns money-courier-like unit near it to speed up research and ability to mend itself and near buildings (at engeneer rate).
4. Has no attacks.
5. Can produce hero units.
6. Limited to 1 per player.
7. Cost 20 turns. (it is more useful than Pentagon becuase it can produce all tanks and has researches for them)

I'm suggesting this because National Defense Management Center's Building was built in 1979-1987 years while this one was built even before war - in 1930-th years.
You are buffing your building too much! I get your Russian! But this building is not supposed to be a production building."Hero" units are the only exception. Techs could be added, but boosts were supposed to be the main Meal.
A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

User avatar
Puss_in_Boots
Posts: 2362
Joined: Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:23 am

Re: The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post by Puss_in_Boots » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:46 am

It's alright, we discussed the idea together. He said the Russian Ministry of Defence building was built as late as the 1970s. Thought it would be okay because this topic would get enough attention, and hopefully some images done. Being fair, this game needs a whole lot more attention in order for it to progress.
RED, WHITE and BLUE!

User avatar
Belfry777
Posts: 1633
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:34 am
Location: AZ

Re: The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post by Belfry777 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:54 am

Yes I agree that this game needs more attention, but it is hard for me to add techs to this building because we have a topic for a "research building". like rockery.
A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

User avatar
General Brave
Posts: 4521
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:12 am
Location: The Four Point Military Academy.

Re: The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post by General Brave » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:34 am

I'm guessing the Pentagon will help us get the Manhattan Project.
Wise, Might, Loyalty. Forever stands Warfell.

User avatar
Belfry777
Posts: 1633
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:34 am
Location: AZ

Re: The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post by Belfry777 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:35 am

General Brave wrote:I'm guessing the Pentagon will help us get the Manhattan Project.
It could, This is a great building for that.
A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

User avatar
General Brave
Posts: 4521
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:12 am
Location: The Four Point Military Academy.

Re: The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post by General Brave » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:41 am

Yes, nuclear bombs.
Wise, Might, Loyalty. Forever stands Warfell.

User avatar
Belfry777
Posts: 1633
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:34 am
Location: AZ

Re: The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post by Belfry777 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:47 am

More ideas every one!
A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

User avatar
General Brave
Posts: 4521
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:12 am
Location: The Four Point Military Academy.

Re: The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post by General Brave » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:56 am

What else were the Americans known for. Did the CIA or FBI play a part in the war. Pretty sure they did but were they in Europe.
Wise, Might, Loyalty. Forever stands Warfell.

User avatar
makazuwr32
Posts: 4045
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:29 am
Location: Moscow, Russia

Re: The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post by makazuwr32 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:22 am

In UralWagonFactory you can research anything from barracks and normal tank and artillery factories.
Also i thought about having if possible in this building 2 separate production lines:
One for normal units (tanks and other) and one for researches and hero units.
But without money couriers-like spawning and without mending.

Also i think that attacks of mega buildings (if they have ones) must be powerful enough to kill medium tanks and any airplanes. With all its shots cocentrated in it.

About Pentagon - it also can be hero producing and research center. I'm pretty sure that most of researches were carried out under protectorate of Pentagon. So this building can research most of american techs from all buildings.
Specifically for not so genious persons
makazuwr32 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:24 am
IT IS ALWAYS EASIER TO CORRECT EXISTING THINGS THAN TO MAKE SOMETHING NEW FROM SCRAP. © by Makazuwr32™.

User avatar
Belfry777
Posts: 1633
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:34 am
Location: AZ

Re: The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post by Belfry777 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:09 pm

The pentagon building and others like that, are to build generals and hero's. Techs are a bonus. Here is the outline of the Japanese building.
Attachments
Jp_comand - Copy.png
Jp_comand - Copy.png (9.28 KiB) Viewed 740 times
A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

User avatar
General Brave
Posts: 4521
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:12 am
Location: The Four Point Military Academy.

Re: The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post by General Brave » Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:01 am

I don't know if that will work.
Wise, Might, Loyalty. Forever stands Warfell.

User avatar
Belfry777
Posts: 1633
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:34 am
Location: AZ

Re: The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post by Belfry777 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:59 am

I shouldn't, it's the outline for better artists to shade and fix.
A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

User avatar
Puss_in_Boots
Posts: 2362
Joined: Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:23 am

Re: The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post by Puss_in_Boots » Fri May 24, 2019 3:06 pm

I've held on to this image for awhile. Anyone want to finish it or should I finalize it myself?

EDITED IN MORE WINDOWS.
Attachments
pentagon_iii.png
pentagon_iii.png (3.49 KiB) Viewed 271 times
pentagon_II.png
pentagon_II.png (2.4 KiB) Viewed 276 times
RED, WHITE and BLUE!

User avatar
Belfry777
Posts: 1633
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:34 am
Location: AZ

Re: The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post by Belfry777 » Tue May 28, 2019 8:01 pm

I think only you can see what needs to be done on this image. And you already have the 3D perspective. So I will just review it so you can edit it.

1. Remember shadowing. I would recommend that you make it at least 10 value darker then the original color being used for the building.
2. Light grey. The Pentagon is white, and while the in-game color for the american nation is green I believe that it should be mainly grey with green splattered intermittently.
3. Armaments. Since this building has attack powers, it should have AA guns, sandbag bunkers, Mg nests and other essential defenses.
A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

User avatar
Puss_in_Boots
Posts: 2362
Joined: Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:23 am

Re: The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post by Puss_in_Boots » Tue May 28, 2019 9:45 pm

Does this resolve the 1st 2 issues? Gotta draw different mega buildings in the meantime.
Attachments
pentagon_greyroof.png
pentagon_greyroof.png (4.06 KiB) Viewed 252 times
RED, WHITE and BLUE!

User avatar
Belfry777
Posts: 1633
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:34 am
Location: AZ

Re: The Pentagon, 1941 - 1943

Post by Belfry777 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:20 am

Just needs a door and it can be implemented inmo.
A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

Post Reply

Return to “Buildings”