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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by DoomCarrot » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:09 pm

Well, if he can get back those points in his turn, he can still stay alive. :)
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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by Detros » Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:53 am

How is it currently going at COOlGuy vs. DoomCarrot and Daniel vs. Duneix?

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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by DoomCarrot » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:03 pm

COOLguy is mia. I am waiting for him to respond, but if we start to hold up the tournament, he will have to be eliminated unfortunately
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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by Dan301002 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:53 pm

Detros wrote:MY units have managed to capture one of Dan's corner TCs. It was bit hard to defend it when there is a mountain range between it and the rest of his base.
The score is currently 2448/1174 at the start of Dan301002's 20th turn so slightly over 2:1.
Dan, if you can kill those intruders quick enough or if you have something big cooking soon we can still continue.
It would be bit sad to not to get to those other things which are currently on the way, otherwise.
There is not apparently, half points lose is kinda sucks, i always play it slow and become bigger and bigger overtime. :?
There is that thing where i always had natural layout disadvantages in everygame of mine. :(
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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by Dan301002 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:01 pm

I am sure my longbowman are on top of my builder in a tc, so he should get hit instead. But my builder die, weird. :?
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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by Detros » Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:28 pm

Dan301002 wrote:I am sure my longbowman are on top of my builder in a tc, so he should get hit instead. But my builder die, weird. :?
Ordering is random each turn, for each player. There is currently no way to make sure the order is in the way you want.
Beside who gets damaged in TC this is also important for who survives in a wagon if that gets destroyed.

As I have said, if you have some catapults or multiple knights or workers to finish that castle which will be ready in few more turns, just continue, at least till Daniel and Duneix are again done.
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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by Detros » Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:34 pm

Dan301002 wrote:There is that thing where i always had natural layout disadvantages in everygame of mine. :(
ad layout: Here is my plan for this map:
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I have seen you could go pink-magenta-magenta-magenta and get to those 2 TCs in the right bottom corner before me. So I have sent my first light cavalry with the green line, then pink one. When you have not appeared I have continued with the cyan line to the central island. My second light cavalry went with the yellow line and then turned east with ochre one. You have taken the gray cities in the meantime. Note I have run around the two cyan cities on my side at first and didn't capture them so that I can get faster to the central area. Transport ship moved reinforcements from the bottom corner to the centre and east.

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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by duneix » Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:57 pm

Detros wrote:How is it currently going at COOlGuy vs. DoomCarrot and Daniel vs. Duneix?
Daniel just surrendered ; sorry I don't have much time. Game was pretty interesting, I have a lot of screenshots, but I have to pick up kids ;)

I think Daniel tried to rush my tcs without immediately taking his one, but didn't manage it (except one that he lost after a few turns) and that penalized him in the mid-game.

But further explanation will come ;)

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Post by Stratego (dev) » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:55 pm

duneix wrote:
Detros wrote:How is it currently going at COOlGuy vs. DoomCarrot and Daniel vs. Duneix?
Daniel just surrendered ; sorry I don't have much time. Game was pretty interesting, I have a lot of screenshots, but I have to pick up kids ;)

I think Daniel tried to rush my tcs without immediately taking his one, but didn't manage it (except one that he lost after a few turns) and that penalized him in the mid-game.

But further explanation will come ;)
Yes he did very well! he deserves to win this round! Thanks!

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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by Detros » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:58 pm

Daniel (the dev) wrote:Yes he did very well! he deserves to win this round! Thanks!
OK. Or will you two do third match to get 2:1 score? Currently it is 1:1. :D
DoomCarrot wrote:COOLguy is mia. I am waiting for him to respond, but if we start to hold up the tournament, he will have to be eliminated unfortunately
Well you are already midway on round 3 while me, Dan, Daniel and Duneix are on round 2 and tamtam is waiting at the start of 3. So plenty of time for COOLguy.

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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by duneix » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:49 pm

I've asked Daniel but he told me, he doesn't want a 3rd turn. :(
So I guess we can go on!

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Post by Stratego (dev) » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:01 pm

I've asked Daniel but he told me, he doesn't want a 3rd turn. :(
sorry i have limited time nowadays.

So Yes! dunex can be announced a winner!
(i always wanted to see others winning tournaments ;))

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Post by DoomCarrot » Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:31 am

Very well, brackets are updated!

tamtam and duneix are now matched for the winner's bracket semi-final! Good luck to both :)

Also, Daniel, you aren't out of this yet, although you do get a short break until Dan and Detros complete their game.

EDIT: I am kind of unclear on whether or not Detros v. Dan is over or not? Has Detros won?
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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by Dan301002 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:30 pm

DoomCarrot wrote:Very well, brackets are updated!

tamtam and duneix are now matched for the winner's bracket semi-final! Good luck to both :)

Also, Daniel, you aren't out of this yet, although you do get a short break until Dan and Detros complete their game.

EDIT: I am kind of unclear on whether or not Detros v. Dan is over or not? Has Detros won?
Since the end of my turn, his point is a little bit mucher than 2x of my points. Detros what do you say? I am already cornered pretty hard anyway. :lol:
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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by tamtam12345 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:56 pm

The game with duneix now started.Duneix choose the map 40x40 greenfield.I seldom play this big map.It will be a great challenge. :?

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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by Detros » Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:02 pm

Dan301002 wrote:
DoomCarrot wrote:Very well, brackets are updated!

tamtam and duneix are now matched for the winner's bracket semi-final! Good luck to both :)

Also, Daniel, you aren't out of this yet, although you do get a short break until Dan and Detros complete their game.

EDIT: I am kind of unclear on whether or not Detros v. Dan is over or not? Has Detros won?
Since the end of my turn, his point is a little bit mucher than 2x of my points. Detros what do you say? I am already cornered pretty hard anyway. :lol:
Oww. Like one or two turns till I finally manage to deliver my big present to Dan. :D

But yes, DoomCarrot, I have got over 200% Dan's points for like five last turns but we kept on going for a bit longer to see if he can get out of it or not.

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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by DoomCarrot » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:33 am

Very well, if it has passed the 2x limit at the end of Dan's turn, then it is more or less over lol. I will try to update the brackets later today :)
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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by duneix » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:50 pm

tamtam12345 wrote:The game with duneix now started.Duneix choose the map 40x40 greenfield.I seldom play this big map.It will be a great challenge. :?
Well game has just started, we're at turn 5, but honestly it's already almost over ;)
We're are very close to each other, Tamtam12345 made a wonderful start...and I already don't know anymore how I will be able to counter him!

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Post by DoomCarrot » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:23 pm

Brackets are updated! Please check your matches!

P.S. COOLguy please send message with game details. Now that they have caught up I give the 72 hour warning. If you do not respond in 72 hours, you will have to automatically forfeit from our match. :?
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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by duneix » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:05 am

Sum up from my game against Daniel:
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Game started, we are at turn 8-10 (?)
Daniel decided to rush my tcs in the SW. He didn't take all his tcs in the North, but conquered one of mine.
Unfortunately he made one (lonely) mistake, leaving the tc with a single dog, sending his pikeman to me, and losing both at the same time while my units just got the attack upgrade.

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After that, he went on harrassing me with crossbowmen, preparing a second attack with horses in the North, next to a castle.
On my side I produced horses to counter the crossbowmen and started producing catapults. I also started to produce an assassin to destroy the castle

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I launched a small attack in the Center and in the North in order to prepare the attack of my assassin, and to gain some time. At that moment, I knew the game was almost won as Daniel lost much time producing pikemen and archers in his towns, so I had much more workers than him -> much more catapults in the mid-term.

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Post by duneix » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:08 am

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First attack with catapults + assassin launched in a wagon to the north

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Second attack, castle + 2 towers + one trebuchet destroyed

This is how the game ended, as Daniel surrendered at that moment.

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Post by duneix » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:20 am

And this is my game against tamtam, which gonna end in the next few turns.
As he was starting, had a better position, and played very very well, I have no chance to win.
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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by Detros » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:30 am

The score is currently 3139/1200 at the start of Dan301002's 25th turn as I have took another of his TCs. I guess in like 5 turns I may be able to finish him completely if he doesn't want to surrender.

In the meantime I await map details from Daniel (Da < De). If you want it, Daniel, I don't have objections to play this River Loop map again. Maybe the river could be just 3 tiles wide but otherwise the distribution of water tiles and bridges seems quite nice in offering the tactical question which way you pick: do you just use map bridges, make a ship transport or will you build your own bridges? Much better than those impassable mountains some maps use as dividers.

EDIT: @duneix and Daniel:
DoomCarrot wrote:Fog is not allowed. Only reveal and explored are.

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Post by duneix » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:36 am

Detros wrote: EDIT: @duneix and Daniel:
DoomCarrot wrote:Fog is not allowed. Only reveal and explored are.
Yes I saw that too late when I created the game ;)
I haven't done the mistake when I created the game against Tamtam

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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by tamtam12345 » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:44 am

Honestly,I can't predict your strategy. I predict it wrong. :)
If we both online,maybe we can have a fast game?

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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by Dan301002 » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:46 pm

Detros wrote:The score is currently 3139/1200 at the start of Dan301002's 25th turn as I have took another of his TCs. I guess in like 5 turns I may be able to finish him completely if he doesn't want to surrender.

In the meantime I await map details from Daniel (Da < De). If you want it, Daniel, I don't have objections to play this River Loop map again. Maybe the river could be just 3 tiles wide but otherwise the distribution of water tiles and bridges seems quite nice in offering the tactical question which way you pick: do you just use map bridges, make a ship transport or will you build your own bridges? Much better than those impassable mountains some maps use as dividers.

EDIT: @duneix and Daniel:
DoomCarrot wrote:Fog is not allowed. Only reveal and explored are.
Welp, i surrender, checkmate for me i guess. I am always on the defense in my game. :P

Both AoS & AoWW (basically i am cornered, but then between losing grounds or slowly taking it back, in this case i forgot to maximize the buildings potential). :lol:

If this tournament is over, i want to see co-op tournament. Will be interesting. :D
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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by tamtam12345 » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:53 pm

Dan301002 wrote: If this tournament is over, i want to see co-op tournament. Will be interesting. :D
Co-op tournament?2v2 games?

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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by Dan301002 » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:56 pm

tamtam12345 wrote:
Dan301002 wrote: If this tournament is over, i want to see co-op tournament. Will be interesting. :D
Co-op tournament?2v2 games?
Yes it is.
Will heavily depends on skill and teamworks, also i never see that kind of tournament. :lol:
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Post by tamtam12345 » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:06 pm

Dan301002 wrote: I never see that kind of tournament. :lol:
I think the reason is: If someone don't have enough time(eg.homework/trip),they maybe skipped.Then the game may become less fun. :) Also,if someone disappear,how to find another player. :?

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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by Dan301002 » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:17 pm

tamtam12345 wrote:
Dan301002 wrote: I never see that kind of tournament. :lol:
I think the reason is: If someone don't have enough time(eg.homework/trip),they maybe skipped.Then the game may become less fun. :) Also,if someone disappear,how to find another player. :?
For that i don't know. I just say it would be interesting if there is one. :P
Edit : Forgot about 72-hours rule too. Or maybe 48-hours (because 2 v 2)
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