21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

User avatar
Belfry777
Posts: 1402
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:34 am
Location: AZ

21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Belfry777 » Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:08 am

A cool looking 5 barrel launcher which fired a 21 cm "spreng" with a 90 pound war head containing 22.4 lbs of T-N-T. This was a very cheap and fast artillery piece compared to others so...

moment - 4
cost - 2
hp - 5
bonus - buildings and infantry
gems - 4
bonus movement on sand (This weapon was used in Africa)
range - 3
attack - 5 times or 2 times with area damage.

picture: https://www.google.com/search?q=21-cm+N ... B8tSEK1LOM:
Last edited by Belfry777 on Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:56 am, edited 2 times in total.
A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

Ayush Tiwari
Posts: 1052
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:30 am
Location: Gorakhpur,a rural city in North India

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Ayush Tiwari » Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:52 am

TO JUSTICE
Ok,but what's the range,I am confused
Furthermore,Idk what is moment
My avatar looks cool,isn't it?

User avatar
Belfry777
Posts: 1402
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:34 am
Location: AZ

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Belfry777 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:10 pm

This artillery piece should be made in the gun factory and no were else.
A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

Ayush Tiwari
Posts: 1052
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:30 am
Location: Gorakhpur,a rural city in North India

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Ayush Tiwari » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:04 am

9 tiles would be too much,just imagine what would it become.
Although it would inaccurate,but 5 times is very much(sorry to be an arguemental creature :roll: )
My avatar looks cool,isn't it?

User avatar
makazuwr32
Posts: 1258
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:29 am
Location: Moscow, Russia

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby makazuwr32 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:27 am

Wait 8'500-10'000 kilometers?! Nazi's hadn't such a thing.
And if 8'500-10'000 meters than it must have at most 3 tiles range because "Katysha's" had from 5 up to 12 kilometers range in different modifications.

Also "Katyusha's" had 12-24 rocket-propelled shots with up to 20 kilo's (44 lbs) of gunpowder. So this thing must be at most similar or weaker than "katysha"
4 speed for an artillery-type unit without transport is waaay too much. 2 speed and 3 on sand at most. It isn't with some engine near it.
Prefered AoS games: AoS, AoF (humans, elves, orcs)
League Championship

User avatar
Puss_in_Boots
Posts: 1746
Joined: Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:23 am
Location: Fairy Tales and Television.

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Puss_in_Boots » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:00 pm

The rule for artillery piece or AA guns.
1 movement only.

10,000 kilometers does not equate to 9 tiles.
In my opinion, the math was always by approximately each 3,000 km of the actual range of a weapon, is one tile of range.
I would say 3 range is fine.
RED, WHITE and BLUE!

User avatar
Belfry777
Posts: 1402
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:34 am
Location: AZ

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Belfry777 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:38 pm

Puss_in_Boots wrote:The rule for artillery piece or AA guns.
1 movement only.

10,000 kilometers does not equate to 9 tiles.
In my opinion, the math was always by approximately each 3,000 km of the actual range of a weapon, is one tile of range.
I would say 3 range is fine.

Actually "pussinboots" the range is 8km no joke this weapon had some range to it and it was inexpensive.

link: https://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/d ... erformance

also this weapon was versatile with Hp rockets, gas rockets and smoke rockets.
A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

User avatar
Belfry777
Posts: 1402
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:34 am
Location: AZ

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Belfry777 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:41 pm

makazuwr32 wrote:Wait 8'500-10'000 kilometers?! Nazi's hadn't such a thing.
And if 8'500-10'000 meters than it must have at most 3 tiles range because "Katysha's" had from 5 up to 12 kilometers range in different modifications.

Also "Katyusha's" had 12-24 rocket-propelled shots with up to 20 kilo's (44 lbs) of gunpowder. So this thing must be at most similar or weaker than "katysha"
4 speed for an artillery-type unit without transport is waaay too much. 2 speed and 3 on sand at most. It isn't with some engine near it.

Yes the range was 8'500-10'000 meters. It is very surprising.
A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

User avatar
Puss_in_Boots
Posts: 1746
Joined: Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:23 am
Location: Fairy Tales and Television.

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Puss_in_Boots » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:03 pm

Many other sources point to something of around:
-7,850m (Wikipedia) = 7.8km
As it turns out you can only get over 8.5 with yards not km.
-7,760 yd (Lone Sentry)
Yards not km.
-6,900m (Weapons and Warfare) = 6.9 km
More reliable than Wikipedia.

If we divide by 3,000 we will get 2 tiles of range.
Since tiles are not linear.
With 2,500 we have about 3 again.
RED, WHITE and BLUE!

User avatar
Belfry777
Posts: 1402
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:34 am
Location: AZ

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Belfry777 » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:22 pm

"Pussinboots" I have a old encyclopedia made in 1952 about ww2 at home. This it what it says... "This had a range of 8,530 yards, though some rockets reported to reach a range of 10,00 yards..."

10,00 yards == 5 miles == 9 km
5000 yards == 3 miles == 8 km

However.. 10,00 yards is a long way!
and also "pussinboots" there is a 30 cm nebelwerfer which is a bit different, it could be an upgrade to the 21-cm
A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

Ayush Tiwari
Posts: 1052
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:30 am
Location: Gorakhpur,a rural city in North India

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Ayush Tiwari » Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:20 am

Probably,we can adjust the range,not to make it invincible
My avatar looks cool,isn't it?

User avatar
Puss_in_Boots
Posts: 1746
Joined: Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:23 am
Location: Fairy Tales and Television.

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Puss_in_Boots » Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:51 am

Books aren't always reliable, but I can trust that source. For now.
Anyways...
As I said before range is 3. :)
I think the larger 30 cm could be an upgrade with extra range. (+1)
More damage as well, which I believe is calculated by xls for now.
RED, WHITE and BLUE!

User avatar
General Brave
Posts: 1754
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:12 am
Location: The Four Point Military Academy.

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby General Brave » Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:53 am

Well I haven't study on World War history in a while, so let's see what happens, what are the stats and image.
Wise, Might, Loyalty. Forever stands Warfell.

User avatar
Belfry777
Posts: 1402
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:34 am
Location: AZ

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Belfry777 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:55 am

Puss_in_Boots wrote:Books aren't always reliable, but I can trust that source. For now.
Anyways...
As I said before range is 3. :)
I think the larger 30 cm could be an upgrade with extra range. (+1)
More damage as well, which I believe is calculated by xls for now.

Aye! we will go with your the 30 cm upgrade, but we need a vote on this, area damage action twice or five separate actions. area damage twice is more realistic with the five barrels and all.
A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

User avatar
samuelch
Posts: 1285
Joined: Thu May 01, 2014 7:43 am
Location: Batavia

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby samuelch » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:18 am

First try.
Attachments
Nebelwerfer.png
Nebelwerfer.png (2.2 KiB) Viewed 365 times
"Black and white is always there in storybooks, but the story of humans aren't always like that." - Sranch 2017
Hugs and love FUR eFURyone!
A cute and nice little fox. Pfp is not by me.

Ayush Tiwari
Posts: 1052
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:30 am
Location: Gorakhpur,a rural city in North India

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Ayush Tiwari » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:30 am

Nice try out there!
My avatar looks cool,isn't it?

User avatar
Belfry777
Posts: 1402
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:34 am
Location: AZ

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Belfry777 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:58 pm

Good, but could it be slanted a bit at the viewer?
A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

User avatar
samuelch
Posts: 1285
Joined: Thu May 01, 2014 7:43 am
Location: Batavia

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby samuelch » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:54 am

Changed.
Attachments
Nebelwerfer.png
Nebelwerfer.png (2.08 KiB) Viewed 283 times
"Black and white is always there in storybooks, but the story of humans aren't always like that." - Sranch 2017
Hugs and love FUR eFURyone!
A cute and nice little fox. Pfp is not by me.

User avatar
Belfry777
Posts: 1402
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:34 am
Location: AZ

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Belfry777 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:53 pm

I like the image!
Last edited by Belfry777 on Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.
A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

Ayush Tiwari
Posts: 1052
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:30 am
Location: Gorakhpur,a rural city in North India

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Ayush Tiwari » Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:29 pm

I prefer five actions,that sounds cool,moreover,it looks quite near to the real weapon.
My avatar looks cool,isn't it?

User avatar
Belfry777
Posts: 1402
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:34 am
Location: AZ

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Belfry777 » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:18 pm

'woken' Ayush Tiwari wrote:I prefer five actions,that sounds cool,moreover,it looks quite near to the real weapon.

Haha me too, but to be realistic it needs to attack twice but with area damage.
A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

User avatar
General Brave
Posts: 1754
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:12 am
Location: The Four Point Military Academy.

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby General Brave » Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:14 am

Maybe it should have a cool down.
Wise, Might, Loyalty. Forever stands Warfell.

Ayush Tiwari
Posts: 1052
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:30 am
Location: Gorakhpur,a rural city in North India

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Ayush Tiwari » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:19 pm

I was talking of the 5 barrel thing
My avatar looks cool,isn't it?

User avatar
Belfry777
Posts: 1402
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:34 am
Location: AZ

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Belfry777 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:03 am

I just think the twice attack with area damage.
A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

User avatar
Puss_in_Boots
Posts: 1746
Joined: Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:23 am
Location: Fairy Tales and Television.

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Puss_in_Boots » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:32 am

How about new mechanic, "volley shot."
It can fire off a set amount of actions, reducing the time spent shooting each shot individually. Then again, it could be more realistic in that it can't fire at every angle in one turn. The player must select one. Wouldn't it be satisfying to watch multiple rockets fire at one target at one command?

Of course, accuracy should be taken into account for each rocket fired. Sounds should fire off at each launch as well.
RED, WHITE and BLUE!

Ayush Tiwari
Posts: 1052
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:30 am
Location: Gorakhpur,a rural city in North India

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Ayush Tiwari » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:44 am

Puss_in_Boots wrote:How about new mechanic, "volley shot."
It can fire off a set amount of actions, reducing the time spent shooting each shot individually. Then again, it could be more realistic in that it can't fire at every angle in one turn. The player must select one. Wouldn't it be satisfying to watch multiple rockets fire at one target at one command?

Of course, accuracy should be taken into account for each rocket fired. Sounds should fire off at each launch as well.

Yes,Thats a nice idea
My avatar looks cool,isn't it?

User avatar
Belfry777
Posts: 1402
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:34 am
Location: AZ

Re: 21-cm Nebelwerfer (German)

Postby Belfry777 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:46 pm

Puss_in_Boots wrote:How about new mechanic, "volley shot."
It can fire off a set amount of actions, reducing the time spent shooting each shot individually. Then again, it could be more realistic in that it can't fire at every angle in one turn. The player must select one. Wouldn't it be satisfying to watch multiple rockets fire at one target at one command?

Of course, accuracy should be taken into account for each rocket fired. Sounds should fire off at each launch as well.

Very nice idea! This rocket firing artillery will have he shot and how about gas shot, but for sure armor piercing shot.
A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.


Return to “Guns”