US Paratrooper and C47 IMPLEMENTED

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US Paratrooper and C47 IMPLEMENTED

Post by samuelch » Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:49 am

US infantry unit that can parachuted behind the enemy line from planes.
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Re: US Paratrooper and C47

Post by samuelch » Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:55 am

Paratrooper plane will have 2 carry capacity that can be used to carry paratroopers and materials. Paratrooper and material can only enter the plane when the plane is adjacent to an airport. Once dismounted on the battlefield they need to return to nearest paratrooper planes adjacent to an airport. The mechanic is not AI friendly. Anyone has better idea?
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Re: US Paratrooper and C47

Post by Stratego (dev) » Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:26 am

plane seems awesome! but i am afraid the "view-angle" is not the same as current planes, try making similar, best if u post an existing plance with the image so we can see if it is right.

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Re: US Paratrooper and C47

Post by samuelch » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:02 pm

So paratroopers will just mount and dismount anywhere.
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Re: US Paratrooper and C47

Post by Belfry777 » Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:38 pm

This is an idea that is very good! Another thing is where would be the paratrooper parachute?
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Re: US Paratrooper and C47

Post by samuelch » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:19 am

Changed.
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Re: US Paratrooper and C47

Post by Belfry777 » Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:28 am

What changed?
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Re: US Paratrooper and C47

Post by Prof_GamerARCHIVED » Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:34 pm

The angle
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Re: US Paratrooper and C47

Post by Belfry777 » Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:43 pm

well then I think I like the top one better.
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Re: US Paratrooper and C47

Post by LordOfAles » Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:51 pm

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Re: US Paratrooper and C47

Post by Belfry777 » Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:07 pm

what is the difference?
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Post by LordOfAles » Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:31 pm

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Re: US Paratrooper and C47

Post by Belfry777 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:00 pm

I think this unit is ready for JSON.
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Re: TO-BE-JSONED US Paratrooper and C47

Post by Hyacintho » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:25 pm

2 units, 2 JSONs. Samuelch, do you think you could post the stats for both here?

The plane will act as a carrier, able to carry 1 unit, so long as it is not mechanized (tanks and such.) It will also be able to spawn (2 or 3?) paratroopers from a range of (2 or 3?). The abilities will be restored once a plane enters an airport. Until the plane reaches an airport, the abilities will be unusable because of a 99+ turn cool down.

For paratroopers, the only suggestion I have is that they have 2 actions a turn. Then again, that is my uneducated guess at what should make them different from normal Infantry.

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Re: TO-BE-JSONED US Paratrooper and C47

Post by godOfKings » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:42 pm

Here is a problem with this mechanism, the summon is permanent, so u can make many such planes, move them one tile from airport, summon unit, put them back in airport, then use ability again, this way u can spam lots of infantry in one turn,
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Re: TO-BE-JSONED US Paratrooper and C47

Post by Hyacintho » Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:07 pm

Ah. That makes sense.
Perhaps then the spawning abilities should be impossible to regain once used. The plane will still be useful as a flying transport, and will always be useful for invasions, yet they will only be able to summon their units one time.
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Re: TO-BE-JSONED US Paratrooper and C47

Post by samuelch » Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:39 pm

I think just give the cooldown for the paratrooper for 6 turns.
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Re: TO-BE-JSONED US Paratrooper and C47

Post by Belfry777 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:27 pm

A cool down of 6 turns makes the C47 useless. I think a cool down of 4 is a better idea mainly because the paratrooper is just an infantry (Needs stats.) Also why can we not paratroop different infantry? I think all infantry should be able to be garrisoned, just the paratrooper unit is a special unit able to have good bonuses on buildings. IMHO.
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Re: TO-BE-JSONED US Paratrooper and C47

Post by Hyacintho » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:17 pm

This is what I think.

We don't need a portable, flying barracks which is capable of training it's own soldiers with no limit. It doesnt matter much with one C47, but with 5 or more and you have a problem. What's also troublesome is the fact that this plane can move. With this, you can basically move unlimited spawn points all across the map. A large number of these, and you could in theory spam multiple units to create a massive army.

It also doesn't make much sense. Where are these soldiers coming from?

I think it should be able to spawn 3 separate units at the same time, each counting as an ability, with either a 99+ turn cool down or a 8+ turn cool down for each. Remeber it also counts as a carrier, so when the abilities run out it will still have use as flying transport, which as of now does not exist in the game.

This makes the plane perfectly useful for Island hopping, conquering TCs, and dropping soldiers behind enemy lines.
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Re: TO-BE-JSONED US Paratrooper and C47

Post by godOfKings » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:21 am

y need to spawn ability in the first place? just make paratrooper a 2 turn infantry that can b made in barracks AND airport, the unique thing about it is that it will have flying effect wen inside the plane like how u can have it in siege tower of aos, so for first turn only, it can fly over mountains and forest at higher speed than normal infantry, other infantry will not have this effect, so wen u garrison a normal infantry in this plane, it will b like the plane first has to land on ground b4 they can leave the plane, so they will walk on ground at normal speed
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Re: TO-BE-JSONED US Paratrooper and C47

Post by samuelch » Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:10 am

With summon the AI able to use it and can at least done the same thing player can do. Instead of 3 summon, just make it 2 summon with 6 turns cooldown. The plane itselves cost around 5 turns.
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Re: TO-BE-JSONED US Paratrooper and C47

Post by Hyacintho » Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:16 pm

Looks like we have a debate!

I'm willing to compromise here. How about we give the paratrooper the flying effect once it enters the plane, using GoK's idea. However, the plane will retain its ability to spawn 1 paratrooper, with a cooldown of 5 turns. It has a carry capacity of (2 or 3?) and can carry infantry and tanks. However, they have delayed speed upon exiting the plane, while paratroopers have flying, which gives them increased speed until they hit the ground. The spawn radius for the paratrooper will be (2 or 3?), so they have a good range as well.
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Re: TO-BE-JSONED US Paratrooper and C47

Post by LordOfAles » Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:43 pm

This is a paratrooper plane, not tank carrier.
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Re: TO-BE-JSONED US Paratrooper and C47

Post by Hyacintho » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:04 pm

Ah, yes. I did some research and found out that all though they can carry trucks and the like, they cannot carry tanks. Apologies.

Any more suggestions concerning my idea? I think its good.
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Re: TO-BE-JSONED US Paratrooper and C47

Post by samuelch » Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:20 pm

Agree. Maybe just 2 carry capacity.
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Re: TO-BE-JSONED US Paratrooper and C47

Post by Hyacintho » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:14 pm

Stats, as calculated by XLS.

Cost: 5

HP: 41

Speed: 5

Armor: 2/2

Attack: 0

Carry Capacity: 2

No bonuses.

Can spawn paratrooper, cool down 5 turns.

I'll start work on the JSON, but one question: Should this be buildable in TC? Or only airport?
However, know that I cannot finish the JSON until the paratrooper has a JSON of it's own. We should focus on that next.
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Re: TO-BE-JSONED US Paratrooper and C47

Post by Belfry777 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:10 pm

I think we are just waiting on the Json.
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Re: TO-BE-JSONED US Paratrooper and C47

Post by Hyacintho » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:26 pm

I can't finish the JSON for the C47 until the paratrooper is done.
We need to make stats for the Paratrooper.
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Re: TO-BE-JSONED US Paratrooper and C47

Post by Hyacintho » Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:52 pm

Here is my uneducated guess at what the paratrooper stats should be:

Cost: 3

HP: 30

Attack: 10

Armor: 0/0

Speed: 3

Sight: 4

Actions: 2

Bonuses: 20% infantry, 25% buildings.

Special Abilities: Gets flying in C47.

Everyone agree on these?
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Re: TO-BE-JSONED US Paratrooper and C47

Post by samuelch » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:04 am

I guess change the attack to 8. GIves them 1 m2 grenade and 1 hawkins grenade. Hp to 32.
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