Polishable unit images in AOS

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Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by Stratego (dev) » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:18 pm

I have opened this because i see there is need for upgradeing some unit appearances and there are also great artists doing it ! :)

so here is my suggestion of units that need some rework in AOS (capaign units mostly)

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Unit images still in need of polishing:
unit_spanish_rider.png
unit_spanish_crossbowman.png
unit_spanish_arquebusier.png
unit_zweihander_h.png
unit_zweihander.png
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Reason: Listing images still not done.

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Re: Bad unit images in AOS

Post by Stratego (dev) » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:43 pm

outpost is not needed - that has already nice image. (i can not delete the image from here...)

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Re: Bad unit images in AOS

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:54 pm

True. Those 3 towers are worst images in whole game.
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Re: Bad unit images in AOS

Post by patroid » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:00 pm

I started reworking the trojan.
but i got to go to the gym now so i coukdnt finish yet...

i will clean the edges refine the borders and add a good shadow later.

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Re: Bad unit images in AOS

Post by Stratego (dev) » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:39 pm

looks good already!

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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by Stratego (dev) » Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:43 pm

adde zweihanders as they need a little depth as look little flat

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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by Puss_in_Boots » Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:12 pm

Please add the spanish units to the list, something is very off with their heads. Guillotine joke not intended.
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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by Stratego (dev) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:20 pm

i agree - they are there.

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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by Endru1241 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:24 pm

I forgot to say this - I corrected 2 white pixels and head a little, and it's already in.
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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by StormSaint373 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:45 pm

Plz don't forget crusaders, early Romans, saint John Knights, sarcans, etc...
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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by Stratego (dev) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:51 pm

sanit john is in the list.
others are not that bad, maybe on next round if we will have next roll as i see this stalling already :)

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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by patroid » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:14 pm

Hi, ill be doing many of them soon.

im just busy caus me 2 sisters my dad my mum and some ohers are having birthday in this and the past week so we celebrate and meet alot.

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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by Puss_in_Boots » Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:41 pm

Cool have fun!
I'll try the spanish units.
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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by Stratego (dev) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:36 am

i hates gatlin+flame+barrage so i made this quickly, can be further polished or totally remade but will do better than currents temporarily.
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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by Endru1241 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:39 pm

I changed the colours of tower roofs (along with TDS towers)- just to make them different, so it's visible at first glance.

Edit: I wasn't clear enough. My question is - are they distinct enough?
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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by Stratego (dev) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:44 pm

please dont change cannon tower, all other is ok can get in!(all are mapeditor only towers)

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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by patroid » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:49 pm

Hi,
since its my bday tday im busy and prolly wont do morem till tomorrow.

i finally finished the horse based on endrus version thats based on my change.
Does it need TeamColor?

I dislike the tower color changes. i think the visual difference that already is there should be set more focus on instead.

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(the image endru called fixed had alot of random black pixels and outlines that do not fit the AOS standard that we set wich
was 1 px wide 'clean' black border)
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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by Endru1241 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:39 pm

Stratego (dev) wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:44 pm
all are mapeditor only towers
Not for long.

I plan to add them to normal buildlist (as agreed in viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5484&sid=a575666126 ... d99bc9c5c6) along with few tower upgrades.
I wanted to make them more distinct before (especially Guard/Crossbow/Longbow).
Just take a look at that :
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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by Stratego (dev) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:49 pm

yes, but currently only mapeditor things
es you can color those, but we also need eg. a ballista in it so some other things too not only roof color distinction.

eg. ballista could have no roof at all but a ballista in top

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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by Endru1241 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:51 pm

Something like attached image I assume.

I actually posted this tower images in hope someone would give some idea how to make them different in a better/additional way.
Especially I have completely no idea about crossbow/longbow tower (well, name could be changed).

My plan is to have 8 basic towers:
Tier 1 - 4 turns
Gate Tower - looks like tower build on gate (with wall joining - I'm trying to make it), has no attack, but fortress-like garrison (2cap, 6-10 heal) - frontal
Guard Tower - like it is - basic, cheap attacking - back tower
Tier 2 - 6 turns
Crossbow Tower - stronger attack, better hp - frontal tower
Longbow Tower - higher range, less hp - back tower
Tier 3 - 8 turns
Fortress Tower - like it is - good defence, good range - anit siege(burning), frontal
Shooting Tower - much lower hp, better range, 3-4 shots, lower damage in each shot - anti-infantry, back
Tier 4
Ballista Tower - higher hp, area damage! - anti-infantry, frontal
Cannon Tower - like it is - anti siege, back
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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by Puss_in_Boots » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:36 pm

Introducing Spanish r3Dlero:

JSON SIGNIFICANCE:
His image has been changed from 32x64 to 32x32!
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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by patroid » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:45 pm

Hi,
started working on the towers.

Tell me if theres an approach to the balistatower u like.
if yes i would polish and make it implementable.

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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by patroid » Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:10 pm

Hi,
and firetower-
just an idea.

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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by patroid » Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:25 pm

Hi,
Is it enough i just reshade those designs?
caus i like them alot and i would think that the creator of those did a great job.

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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by StormSaint373 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:19 pm

Spain-1 (1.66KIB) looks good
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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by Puss_in_Boots » Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:49 am

Ballista 3, Spain-1 is my favorite.
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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by DreJaDe » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:20 am

patroid wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:45 pm
Hi,
started working on the towers.

Tell me if theres an approach to the balistatower u like.
if yes i would polish and make it implementable.

Patroid
Though the image is good, it's not appropriate since it like it's build using concrete. I suggest making it look like the fortress with it looking like it's made out of bricks.

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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by makazuwr32 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:26 am

With small changes to look close to other towers 3rd ballista image will fit nice.
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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by patroid » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:24 pm

Hi
@DreJaDe

like so?

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Re: Polishable unit images in AOS

Post by DreJaDe » Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:20 am

Hmmm. Now it looks like it's made out of Steel. I suggest, instead of square like bricks, make it rectangle. While the pattern is, instead of lining up the vertical lines, position the vertical lines on the middle of other horizontal lines.

Idk how to add picture so I'll use the keys on my keyboard as example.

/|•|•|•|•|•|•|•|\
/|•|•|•|•|•|•|•|•|•|\
|____|____|____|
|__|____|____|_|
|____|____|____|. ←like this wall.
|__|____|____|_|
|____|____|____|

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