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Campaign Difficulty IMPLEMENTED

Postby COOLguy » Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:15 am

Daniel and I would like to organize the storylines by difficulty (a little like AoF) to help clear up the menu a bit and help new players. Here is the matrix that I think could help in determining difficulty.

difficulty rating:
- 1: Easily defeated it the first time/no chance of AI winning
- 2: Defeated it the first time but could've lost and required strategy
- 3: Oh my goodness, did I just lose?
length rating:
- 1: afternoon well spent. finished the story
- 2: an hour or so for each map. story could take a week
- 3: Life drain. Huge map takes forever.
units rating:
- 1: not many upgrade units. Or did not require any knowledge of how to use units
- 2: upgrade units are often used from many parts of the trees. Advanced strategies or tactics needed for normal units
- 3: very advanced and detailed knowledge of how to best use each unit given.

difficulty*length*units/2 = rating score
1-4 Easy
5-10 Medium
11-13.5 Hard

Here's what I've got so far - Please help!:

Easy
Gorgon-Delight
Revolution
Challenge
Carnage
Almost Got It
War of Factions
Grim Company

Medium
Viking Age
Heir to the Throne
Two Kingdoms
Aquarius
Fire War
Brothers War
War of Factions
Paths of Rome

Hard
Maximus
Owaguchuk
Ambition
Hornburghs Dominion
Kingdom Come
The Rebel King
Mercenaries
Nyadhos Strategy
Age of Nyadhos

What do you think? :)
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Re: Campaign Difficulty

Postby godOfKings » Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:21 am

although my story isnt complete yet, but u can add The Rebel King in the hard category :), the only good thing about the maps is that they dont take too long, other than that they r extremely difficult for noobs
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Re: Campaign Difficulty

Postby makazuwr32 » Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:35 am

Personally i think that both Nyadhos strategy and Age of Nyados are hard campains.
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Re: Campaign Difficulty

Postby godOfKings » Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:54 am

yes
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Re: Campaign Difficulty

Postby makazuwr32 » Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:14 am

My personal rating of campains:

Gorgon delight - easy.
Paths of Rome is medium - there are some medium and even hard maps.
Grim company is actually easy/medium. Yes you need upgrades but with them it is really easy campain.
Kigdom come - medium/hard rating. Especially second half.
Aquarias - agree with medium rating.
Maximus - medium/hard rating i think must be.
Carnage - easy/medium rating. Without upgrades pretty hard, but with really easy.
Fire war - medium rating because of first two maps. Enemy has really powerful forces compared to your at the beginning.
Brothers war - easy/medium. Needs a bit of strategy and a bit of upgraded units.
Nyadhos strategy - one of hardest campains for myself. Definately hard rating.
Age of Nyadhos - same here, one of hardest, hard rating.
Almost got it - medium rating with last map as hardest.
Heir to the throne - medium/hard rating: there are some really hard maps.
War of factions - medium/hard rating. Some maps are really hard because of stupid allied AI.
Viking age - easy rating, but close to medium.
Two kingdoms - medium rating.
Owaguchuk - medium/hard rating, with closer to medium.
Challenge - easy. Really easy.
Mercenaries - hard rating. Really hard campain, on pair with both for Nyadhos.
Ambition - medium/hard rating. First maps pretty easy but after harder and harder. Can't finish it.
Hornburghs Dominion - medium rating.
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Re: Campaign Difficulty

Postby tamtam12345 » Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:47 am

COOLguy wrote:difficulty rating:
- 1: Easily defeated it the first time/no chance of AI winning
- 2: Defeated it the first time but could've lost and required strategy
- 3: Oh my goodness, did I just lose?
length rating:
- 1: afternoon well spent. finished the story
- 2: an hour or so for each map. story could take a week
- 3: Life drain. Huge map takes forever.
units rating:
- 1: not many upgrade units. Or did not require any knowledge of how to use units
- 2: upgrade units are often used from many parts of the trees. Advanced strategies or tactics needed for normal units
- 3: very advanced and detailed knowledge of how to best use each unit given.

difficulty*length*units/2 = rating score
1-4 Easy
5-10 Medium
11-13.5 Hard

What do you think? :)

In difficulty part,I want to ask what is definition of"win"? Get 3 stars OR only win? They are different. :)

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Re: Campaign Difficulty

Postby COOLguy » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:57 pm

tamtam12345 wrote:In difficulty part,I want to ask what is definition of"win"? Get 3 stars OR only win? They are different.

Hmm i didn't think of that :) I guess
1 - easy 3 star
2 - 2 star
3 - lose or win 1 star easily

I'll look over what you guys have said and update OP
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Re: Campaign Difficulty

Postby COOLguy » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:23 pm

Updated. @mak I think I agree with most of your rating. Some like Hornburgh and Owagachuk are in hard just because some of those maps are soooo long :) And Ambition is a really really long campaign too.

I didn't realize that the Nyadhos pair were so hard.

Some I haven't played all the way through either like two brothers and almost got it.

Anyone else have any thoughts?
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Re: Campaign Difficulty

Postby tamtam12345 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:11 pm

Hmm...Here is my ratings.

Gorgon-Delight E
Easy.Last two maps need some strategy.
Revolution E
Very easy.Can get 3 stars first time.
Viking Age H,no doubt
Very very difficult to get 3 stars in 2,3 and 5th map.(I still can't get 3 stars in 5th map).Need to think twice before move each unit.Length is long because it is difficult.Need to try it many times. :o
Challenge E
Need some strategy to win.But 3 stars is easy to win due to turns.
Carnage E
Almost Got It E~M
War of Factions E~ M
Maybe just because I played it many times...
Heir to the Throne M
Two Kingdoms E~M
Aquarius M
Maximus H
Second map is very very difficult.Need to try many many times to get 3 stars.Need luck if you use that method.
Fire War M
Agree with makazuwr32.
Brothers WarNot finished yet.
Grim Company E
I remember it is a easy campaign to win.
Paths of Rome M~H
Difficult and interesting maps.
Owaguchuk M
Some of them difficult to win. Honestly,I don't like this campaign. :roll:
AmbitionE~H
Agree with makazuwr32.
Hornburghs Dominion H
Very very difficult to kill all emeny within 30 turns in last map. I think I won't forgot it. :lol: Other maps are quite big so I set it to hard.(Although not difficult)
Kingdom Come H
The Rebel King E~M
Mercenaries H
Nyadhos Strategy Honestly I haven't finish it all. :)
Age of Nyadhos H,no doubt
And I found the final marks are strange...most of them become easy...so finally I deleted them.

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Re: Campaign Difficulty

Postby COOLguy » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:35 pm

Thanks tamtam, I will edit my OP with some from your post.

I thought that Vikings would be medium, because the first maps I found as easy. But I kinda agree with Owaguchuk :)
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Re: Campaign Difficulty

Postby samuelch » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:52 pm

I have an idea: Sort campaign based on it's average duration to win it. Campaign with a lot of units and huge map need a long time to win it.
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Re: Campaign Difficulty

Postby COOLguy » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:14 am

samuelch wrote:I have an idea: Sort campaign based on it's average duration to win it. Campaign with a lot of units and huge map need a long time to win it.

Yes I think you are right. That is kinda what I was trying to do too. Long maps make the campaign more hard.
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Re: Campaign Difficulty

Postby Puss_in_Boots » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:21 am

I think we should arrange gem awards these ways. We organize maps into different difficulties, and set higher gem rewards for each level of difficultly. Encourages players to try time consuming and hard campaigns.
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Re: Campaign Difficulty

Postby COOLguy » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:27 am

That's a good suggestion. Can you put a topic in the Gameplay/UI suggestions section? (so you get gems for completing storylines in addition to maps right?)
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Re: Campaign Difficulty

Postby Stratego (dev) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:49 pm

what you think about sugari kingdom?

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Re: Campaign Difficulty IMPLEMENTED

Postby godOfKings » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:19 am

Lol its suhari kingdom, poor ayush would b sad to see this, but I guess it can b called easy for now, his last two maps were quite interesting and I m looking forward to see more of this
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Re: Campaign Difficulty IMPLEMENTED

Postby makazuwr32 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:42 am

I just leave it here:
http://www.androidutils.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4415&p=57239#p57239
this is opinion of Ayush Tiwari itself.
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Re: Campaign Difficulty IMPLEMENTED

Postby Ayush Tiwari » Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:49 am

godOfKings wrote:Lol its suhari kingdom, poor ayush would b sad to see this, but I guess it can b called easy for now, his last two maps were quite interesting and I m looking forward to see more of this

Thats understandable.
I was thinking not to put turn of stars for first two maps,btw tht is against the.....(should I call it rule?)


Also,I forgot to tell,third and fourth map are probably brought in wrong order.
Its Inside the Ship first,and then Crossing the Coast,but according to story,it should be first Crossing the Coast,and then Inside the Ship
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