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Save 2014 Christmas map - IMPLEMENTED

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:38 pm
by Stratego (dev)
I thought it would be fun to have a FAN map of saving Santa Claus.

my idea:
- we need a Santa icon (1x1 tile overlapping to top with a big bag on his back)
- we need christmas tree shaped map:
- tree green part if forest
- the trunk is from roads
- the tree decoration id from hills, desert colored hills, flowers and anything else
- the map starts with the santa on the bottom of the tree and a few escort units
- using triggers we can launch enemy units against the gathering
- player must protect santa otherwise he is lost.
- at the top of the tree there is a towncenter or a few that must be approached by santa (moving near them) to win
- the top TCs can be enemy TC-s by default and disabled by triggers not to produce units.
- the road to the top can be labyrinth like path using the decorational hills as long shining decoration "boa"s around the tree

this was my idea for this Christmas
what do you think of it?
anyone want to participate in making it?

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:07 pm
by draakjee
I had also been thinking about some Christmas maps, i just didn't had time to post it though:
special units: Also santa claus and reindeers
and maybe a building: Christmas tree, that can shoot Christmas balls to enemies

i was more thinking about a small campaign with a storyline, but a map with the shape of a Christmas tree also sounds nice :)

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:38 pm
by balint
I made an xmas tree :)

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:45 pm
by Stratego (dev)
ok, but i do not plan to put there many new units because of this, only one (2 tops).

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:37 pm
by Stratego (dev)

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:24 pm
by patroid
Hi
Here a little santa.

patroid

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:34 pm
by patroid
And a little Tree.

patroid

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:33 pm
by patroid
Hi
And the ball.

Patroid

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:36 pm
by balint
they are cool!

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:40 pm
by Stratego (dev)
santa is cool! :)

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:09 pm
by Stratego (dev)
i have made a santa map (fan section), we only need triggering onto it.

do you like it?

can anyone do the triggering onto it?
something like these:
- on start disabling tomost TC-s (to avoid enemy production)
- putting enemy to the left bottom part of the tree
- if santa reaches a point on the left, removing the little concrete wall on the bottom-middle-right of the tree (to let go tru)
- as santa goes up and up the tree, give enemies against him

other:
- santa wins if all castles at top are occupied
- santa may have some helaing ability i suppose.

(currently a hoplite represents santa, i will change it soon, but the triggering can be started with the hoplite.)

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:41 am
by balint
I might try it
I send yo the triggers this evening.

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:41 am
by patroid
Hi
Its impossible actual you need 294.11 turns to destriy the
Rocks...

Patroid

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:29 pm
by draakjee
Daniel (the dev) wrote:can anyone do the triggering onto it?
something like these:
- on start disabling tomost TC-s (to avoid enemy production)
- putting enemy to the left bottom part of the tree
- if santa reaches a point on the left, removing the little concrete wall on the bottom-middle-right of the tree (to let go tru)
- as santa goes up and up the tree, give enemies against him
I haven't seen the map yet, but according to Daniel, it's only possible to pass the wall when you trigger something

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:41 pm
by Stratego (dev)
Yes i planned to remove the concrete by trigger.

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 3:36 pm
by COOLguy
Tc s are disabled. :)
Santa captures the tc s and the player sees a victory message ends his turn and wins.

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:09 am
by Stratego (dev)
ok, the first version of the map is up on the server - thanks to James for starting the triggering!
I have finished (hopefully the triggering) so it is on the server in 5 minutes.

please test it and send me any suggestions.

santa can convert enemy with 80% chance, i am working on that conversion effect will be indicated with a christmas present thrown to enemy :)

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:22 am
by Stratego (dev)
and now with the present icon on conversion! (up on server in 5 minutes)

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:11 am
by draakjee
there are 2 enemy assassins, but they can't move, all units can walk through them :)

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:30 pm
by COOLguy
lol
Love the throwing presents! :lol:
Saw a few mistakes and such (barracks are player's), but I will fix them. The map is awesome. :)

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:35 pm
by Stratego (dev)
heeyy wrote:there are 2 enemy assassins, but they can't move, all units can walk through them :)
the assassin bug is fixed, up on server in 5 minutes.
and some changes in the triggers by James.

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:51 pm
by draakjee
the assassin bug is still there, i could still walk over 1 assassin :P

and the map is awesome! there are lots of strategies you can use to win
i only don't understand what i'm supposed to do at the last 2 TC?

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:50 pm
by COOLguy
Assassins: yes, it happened to me when I walked on one. I couldn't select him though, it was like he wasn't there. Also the enemy destroyed the towers that could see the assassins, but I came later and I could still see them.

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:55 pm
by draakjee
How do you get those watchtowers?

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:50 pm
by COOLguy
almost the bottom right hand of the tree by the stone. Santa gives you a hint when halfway up the tree. you can also get lancers.

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:33 pm
by Stratego (dev)
heeyy wrote:the assassin bug is still there, i could still walk over 1 assassin :P

and the map is awesome! there are lots of strategies you can use to win
i only don't understand what i'm supposed to do at the last 2 TC?
this is intentional, you can accidentally step on them (since you dont see assassins, only if you have watch towers or scouts around (or on adjacent tile to assassin)) so they will die.

this was intentional - however when they are revealed - maybe they could be a non-steppable conventional unit...
di u suggest changing that? (btw: this question is a separate problem, off-topic here)

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:06 pm
by draakjee
@coolguy, thanks, i will take a look at it

@daniel, the problem is, that you actually can "see" them even if you have no scout or watchtowers. When the enemy is moving units, you will also be able to see the assassins for a second, and with that little knowledge you can predict were they are and step on them.

and i think it's good that you can step on them, but the assassin should be removed after stepping on him. It just looks strange if you can walk through someones body :)

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:51 am
by Stratego (dev)
@daniel, the problem is, that you actually can "see" them even if you have no scout or watchtowers. When the enemy is moving units, you will also be able to see the assassins for a second, and with that little knowledge you can predict were they are and step on them.
i am not sure you have the latest version because i have fixed visual problems and i did not see anything from the AI assassin the first i saw it when it has stepped beside my knight and killed it :)
and i think it's good that you can step on them, but the assassin should be removed after stepping on him. It just looks strange if you can walk through someones body :)
if you step on them it must vanish instantly - did u experinece something else?

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:08 am
by Stratego (dev)
and i think it's good that you can step on them, but the assassin should be removed after stepping on him. It just looks strange if you can walk through someones body :)

if you step on them it must vanish instantly - did u experinece something else?
you are right, it is not disappearing - however the assassing destroyed the image stays there - fixing it.

Re: Save 2014 Christmas map

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:01 am
by Stratego (dev)
ok, the fix is on the server in 3 minutes: if you step on a spy (that you see somehow) than it will vanish instantly.