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Daimyo

Post by Sunrise Samurai » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:27 pm

Daimyo
Cost 8
Trained in stable (move to dojo if/when that gets added)
Hp 45
Armor 3/3
Power 15
Actions 1
Speed 5
Spell resistance 100%
Bushido aura: radius 5, gives all Japanese units (including ashigaru units) +2 power

It's the Japanese equivalent of centurions. Encourages using other Japanese units alongside it, for national cohesion.
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Re: Daimyo

Post by LordOfAles » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:28 pm

I like it! It seems balanced, and its like centurion for Japanesse. Its a great unit! :)
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Re: Daimyo

Post by MightyGuy » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:23 am

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Re: Daimyo

Post by MightyGuy » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:53 am

This unit is similar to Yabusame but it is a kind of mounted archer. viewtopic.php?f=77&t=3355&p=47198#p47198
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Re: Daimyo

Post by LordOfAles » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:54 am

Yeah, this is like centurion, but Japanesse :D
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Re: Daimyo

Post by samuelch » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:58 pm

How about adding spell ressistance to for the Bushido aura?
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Re: Daimyo

Post by Sunrise Samurai » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:18 pm

Spell resistance? Interesting idea. What does everyone else think?
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Re: Daimyo

Post by Puss_in_Boots » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:22 pm

We don't want the loyal Samurais being easily converted under the bushido effect.

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Re: Daimyo

Post by COOLguy » Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:43 pm

I like it! It's like a Japanese Centurion
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Re: Daimyo

Post by Sunrise Samurai » Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:23 pm

That was the idea. I originally wanted to do +3 power for the aura, but I was told it might be op with samurai/hatamoto having 2 attacks.
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Re: Daimyo

Post by godOfKings » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:51 pm

I think 45 HP is too low for an 8 turn unit, may be make HP 56 so that it won't b killed by max damage pikeman in one hit, or make it 51 with 5 armour (gets 50 damage from 10 atk halberdier) I mean even destroying heavy catapults in one hit needs at least a 5 turn unit (omnithopter, treb, cannon) so an 8 turn unit being killed by a 2 turn unit is too much (although the turns taken to research all the techs to make pikeman have 10 atk could be considered long enough to b able to kill it in one hit, but I don't know exactly how long it takes though so not sure if it balances)
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Re: Daimyo

Post by LordOfAles » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:53 pm

Its real upside is the aura
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Re: Daimyo

Post by godOfKings » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:34 pm

How about make it exactly same as centurion (with 40 HP and 6 cost and Bushido aura equivalent to legion command, and may be give it high morale effect too)
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Re: Daimyo

Post by godOfKings » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:36 pm

Or may b instead of high morale the increase in spell resistance is the effect
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Re: Daimyo

Post by Sunrise Samurai » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:01 pm

If we're changing the aura any, I'd say raise the attack increase to 3.

The Japanese took a fatalistic view towards war, feeling that armor and shields did very little to protect you, and you were better off just being skilled and killing your opponent before they killed you. Often this actually resulted in mutual kills, with both sides attacking and not defending, so they would both die.
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Re: Daimyo

Post by godOfKings » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:22 pm

I think 2 attack and 30% spell resist is better, after all samurais are still affected by high morale aura so if daimo and another unit with high morale stood side by side beside samurai, their attack would be too high
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Re: Daimyo

Post by Ravancloak » Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:13 am

First attempt...
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Re: Daimyo

Post by godOfKings » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:22 am

Obviously it needs a bigger head, and a sword, otherwise great first try, my first sketches r usually too horrible to show :lol:


I think its better to remodel the head after the current samurai head, may b try the yabusame head, and instead of the two horns give this crown like thing on top, and the horse's neck too seems a bit too narrow
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Re: Daimyo

Post by Ravancloak » Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:10 pm

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Thanks! I'll work on it. Also, what do you mean by two horns? I based it on the two images attached earlier.

Here it is, revised.
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Re: Daimyo

Post by godOfKings » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:45 pm

Samurai helmet usually has 2 horn like thingie, but it doesn't matter, follow Ur design its great

The horse is perfect, the man's upper body could b a little bigger
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Re: Daimyo

Post by Ravancloak » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:55 am

MightyGuy wrote:
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These are what I used

I used wrong shade of pink, I finally looked it up to see what color XD it's fixed now.
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Re: Daimyo

Post by godOfKings » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:31 am

Both looks fine to me, I will wait for other's opinions
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Re: Daimyo

Post by godOfKings » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:53 pm

How is this img
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Re: Daimyo

Post by godOfKings » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:10 pm

@COOLguy final update, how is the image?
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Re: Daimyo

Post by LordOfAles » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:12 pm

I think you would have more success editing any other cavalry unit. The horse here looks unnatural.
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Re: Daimyo

Post by godOfKings » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:07 am

thanks for finally givin n honest opinion, now i can scrape this and attempt a new one in peace :lol:
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