Ottoman Camelry - ACCEPTED

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Ottoman Camelry - ACCEPTED

Post by samuelch » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:50 pm

A mounted Ottoman's unit that rides a camel. Gets camel fear aura. Cost=4 turns. (basically a cheaper and weaker mameluke)
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by DoomCarrot » Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:11 pm

I think better would be 2-3 turns, and substantially weaker than a mameluke. Otherwise their uses might be too similar

Cost: 3
HP: 20
Move: 5
Attack: 5
Armor/P: 0/1

60% bonus against all cavalry, dealing 8 damage effectively. Fear aura

Or

Cost: 2
HP: 18
Move: 5
Attack: 5
Armor/P: 0/0

40% bonus, for 7 damage against cavalry. Fear Aura
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by LordOfAles » Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:13 pm

I preffer second version
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by DoomCarrot » Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:36 am

Second version can get three shotted by archers if they have the master archery 1 tech, which I think is fairly balanced. also pikemen would one hit kill it, as would some troops like flail soldiers
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by LordOfAles » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:30 am

Yeah, its fair for 2 cost
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by Puss_in_Boots » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:46 am

Yeah the light cavalry has some new competition now for cheap cavalry.
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by samuelch » Sun Nov 12, 2017 1:59 pm

Camels are slower in movement.
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by godOfKings » Sun Nov 12, 2017 2:11 pm

How about 4 speed and 15 HP?
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by Puss_in_Boots » Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:16 pm

samuelch wrote:Camels are slower in movement.
But now this one is cheaper, and has camel fear aura.
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by Belfry777 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:50 pm

yep
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:26 am

TO JUSTICE
I made a starting try,see if it looks good as a base:(edited on mameluks of AoS)
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by godOfKings » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:00 am

Great, now we need team colouring
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:55 am

Should I put teamcolour in the skullcap?
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by makazuwr32 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:34 pm

yes and maybe on the shield one diagonal line.
Specifically for not so genious persons
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:38 pm

This?
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by makazuwr32 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:42 pm

could you return black contur on head's up and make a line on shield a bit bigger?
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by godOfKings » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:35 pm

The camel could use a pink saddle
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:09 pm

makazuwr32 wrote:could you return black contur on head's up and make a line on shield a bit bigger?
Heads up?Do you mean that skullcap?
godOfKings wrote:The camel could use a pink saddle
I think the place for saddle is hardly visible,but I will make a try if it could happen
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by makazuwr32 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:45 pm

Yes.
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by Belfry777 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:04 am

I like the picture Ayush!!
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:17 am

Now?Also,Thanks Belfry,It was one of the best image I could make.
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by COOLguy » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:22 am

Looks pretty cool - what are the Mameluk's stats to make sure that this one is different?
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:29 am

DoomCarrot wrote:I think better would be 2-3 turns, and substantially weaker than a mameluke. Otherwise their uses might be too similar

Cost: 3
HP: 20
Move: 5
Attack: 5
Armor/P: 0/1

60% bonus against all cavalry, dealing 8 damage effectively. Fear aura

Or

Cost: 2
HP: 18
Move: 5
Attack: 5
Armor/P: 0/0

40% bonus, for 7 damage against cavalry. Fear Aura
I prefer anyone from these two....
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by Belfry777 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:20 am

The one lower is the better one then the top because of...
1. cost 2 and makes a BIG difference.
2. for cost 2 Hp is just 2 less making 18.
3. as for the bonus, their really is no differenc when in battle, It's just a 20% difference, Meaning that that their would be one more attack against mounted units being just ONE more above the cost 2 one.
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:22 am

Belfry777 wrote:The one lower is the better one then the top because of...
1. cost 2 and makes a BIG difference.
2. for cost 2 Hp is just 2 less making 18.
3. as for the bonus, their really is no differenc when in battle, It's just a 20% difference, Meaning that that their would be one more attack against mounted units being just ONE more above the cost 2 one.
I too think that one is better
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by makazuwr32 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:19 am

Mammeluk stats:
30 hp
12 attack
Trainable in castles for 5 turns
2/2 armor
4 speed (5-6 on sand)
50% bonus against cavalry.

I'll prefer for 3 turns because
1. For 2 turns they have good aura which itself is powerful. He will become a bit op because of spam and aura.
2. Light cavalry has cost 3 turns.
3. I don't think that this is good idea for 2 turns cavalry unit.

Also i think he must be trainable only in stables.
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by godOfKings » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:48 pm

2 turn version
Cost 2
Atk 4
HP 11
Speed 4
Armor 0/0
Spell resist 0%

Has camel fear aura and bonus speed on sand
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:15 pm

godOfKings wrote:2 turn version
Cost 2
Atk 4
HP 11
Speed 4
Armor 0/0
Spell resist 0%

Has camel fear aura and +1/2 speed in desert tiles

Bonus: 50% on horses, archers and infantry, unlike light cav it deals only 6 damage max and cannot kill anything easily, but it has higher speed for being cheap and anti cav aura
HP 11 would be too weak,or there should be some tech to increase attack and HP
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by godOfKings » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:17 pm

It is like banner bearer but has negative buff, it can get blacksmith techs to upgrade armor and atk, but considering its speed and how easily it can b spammed with two turn cost I wouldn't want it to gain more hp
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Re: Ottoman Akinji

Post by godOfKings » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:21 pm

Just think, a Mongolian horse archer and normal horse archer and lancer deals 0 DAMAGE to it because of camel fear aura, I would rather suggest it should have 6 HP instead of 11 because how dangerous its debuff is
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