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Franks Throwing Axeman ACCEPTED

Post by samuelch » Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:33 pm

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The stats will be similar to this, but they can they have more hp, armor, and bonus against buildings. Cost=3 turns.
They can withstand enemies in melee for more turns and throw their Francisca (the name of the axe) to their enemies.
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Re: Franks Throwing Axeman

Post by makazuwr32 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:38 am

Bonuses only to buildings? Range must be no more that 4.
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Re: Franks Throwing Axeman

Post by COOLguy » Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:50 pm

Isn't this already the axeman?
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Re: Franks Throwing Axeman

Post by samuelch » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:52 pm

This one has bonus against buildings and more hp and armor.
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Re: Franks Throwing Axeman

Post by godOfKings » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:01 pm

May b for 3 turn cost they can have double action with 8 atk and 3 range, most 3 turn infantries deal more than 15 damage, this will b the same with a little reduced damage (16 atk) and a little more range, (by the way I don't like the idea of units dealing more than 20 damage to buildings to have more than 3 range)

So it shall b a short ranged heavy hitter dealing almost the same damage as other 3 turn melee infantries
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Re: Franks Throwing Axeman

Post by godOfKings » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:03 pm

Here's my stat suggestion:
Cost 3
HP 18
Atk 7
Armour 0/0
Range 3
Speed 3
Sight 4
Action 2
Spell resist 0%
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Re: Franks Throwing Axeman

Post by Sunrise Samurai » Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:38 pm

I'd rather we adjust the current axe thrower instead of making another version of it. This version is looking like strong competition for hatamoto, having only slightly less strength to account for the range.
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Re: Franks Throwing Axeman

Post by godOfKings » Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:24 am

Makazwur is adjusting the stats of the older axe thrower, a 2 turn unit with 7 atk and 17 HP as well as 4 range, (not that I m particularly fond of increase in range, even slingshooter with same range and 8 atk has a miss chance)
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Re: Franks Throwing Axeman

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:04 am

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makazuwr32 wrote:Cost 3 turns (still trainable at barracks)
Hp - 17 (by 1 less than swordman, +3 after upgrade)
Attack - 6-7 (melee type, 50-100% bonus to all living targets (infantries, archers, cavalry, but not chariots, elephants) and ignores armor at range of 2, gains 8 attack after upgrade)
Has additional 20% chance to miss for each point of speed higher than 3 (after upgrade that chanse lowered to 10% per each point of speed higher than 3)
Range - 4 (stays same after upgrade)
Armor - 0
P.Armor - 0 (gains +1 after upgrade)
Actions/turn - 1 (gains +1 after upgrade)
Speed - 3
Sight - 6
still counts as infantry for archers.

So it will become something like archer on steroids when enemy close but without increasing range from blacksmith
makazuwr32 wrote:Also one more suggestion - he can't counterattack.
Normal axeman would become completely different unit.
Forget about bonuses to building for him.

godOfKings wrote:Here's my stat suggestion:
Cost 3
HP 20
Atk 7
Armour 0/0
Range 3
Speed 3
Sight 4
Action 2
Spell resist 0%
I suggest to lower hp by 2 but give 1 point of p.armor him.
Also will he be affected by blacksmith upgrades?
If no than we can add 1 damage.
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Re: Franks Throwing Axeman

Post by godOfKings » Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:37 pm

Y should throwing axe units have p.armor? They r not wearing anything protective against pierce atks, and they should b lightly armored and flexible to b able to throw axes properly, and they should get blacksmith upgrades, but sword mastery upgrade with no increase in range
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Re: Franks Throwing Axeman

Post by godOfKings » Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:38 pm

Most 3 turn infantry have higher than 20 HP and this unit is based on infantry with bonus against buildings, also since it has double action the unit should b wielding two throwing axes instead of a shield
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Re: Franks Throwing Axeman

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:22 pm

godOfKings wrote:Most 3 turn infantry have higher than 20 HP and this unit is based on infantry with bonus against buildings, also since it has double action the unit should b wielding two throwing axes instead of a shield
yes but they don't have any range. they are melee.
godOfKings wrote:Y should throwing axe units have p.armor? They r not wearing anything protective against pierce atks, and they should b lightly armored and flexible to b able to throw axes properly, and they should get blacksmith upgrades, but sword mastery upgrade with no increase in range
P.armor could be as just better armor - chain armor (hauberk) for example because it has both flexibility and at the same time good against arrows.
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Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on. Some real info why it must be done.
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Re: Franks Throwing Axeman

Post by godOfKings » Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:32 pm

I still don't think it needs p.armor, having normal blacksmith infantry armor upgrades is enough
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Re: Franks Throwing Axeman ACCEPTED

Post by Stratego (dev) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:36 am

accepted please someone make json for it - thanks!

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