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Saber tooth rider

Post by Savra » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:54 pm

Fast orc ranger hunters who ride ferocious sabertooths into battle equipped with throwing axes.
Cost: 4
Hp:28,33,38
Atk:6,7,8
Rng:3,4,5
Speed:4,5,6
Arm:0,1,2
P.Arm:0,1,2
Actions:2
Res:0%
Same bonuses as the axe thrower ork. Just went through human and orc cav to try and get it a little tolerable, what you think?

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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by makazuwr32 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:00 pm

No.
Cav unit that destroys buildings?! with speed 6, 38 hp and 5 range?

This will destroy balance.
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by General Brave » Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:22 pm

Pretty sure the Wolves Riders already do that.
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by makazuwr32 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:23 pm

Wolf riders don't have bonuses to buildings like axe throwers. he wants a ranged unit with same bonuses as axe thrower - to buildings.

Also another "no" is that i really don't like idea of ranged mounted unit for now. elves are exeption because they must be masters of range.
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by General Brave » Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:24 pm

Perhaps we don't need that, maybe could be used for something else.
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by Savra » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:28 pm

Well, I can understand this being a problem so, if asking for it to be something else later on what would the thought be? Take away all the other stats/upgrades and just make it a speedy support unit of just hold off till further info?

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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by Savra » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:29 pm

Btw by support O keen prolly a shaman who would be like a missionary only with different ability's and weaker potions then a shaman

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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by makazuwr32 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:30 pm

also saber tooth tigers i wanted to keep for elves.
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by General Brave » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:32 pm

A support mage?
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by makazuwr32 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:37 pm

Panthers will become mounts for elven protectors (i have in mind 2) and saber tooth riders for their archers.
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by General Brave » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:39 pm

I'm guessing we bringing back extinct creatures, where should the woolly mammoth go.
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by makazuwr32 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:45 pm

Dwarves.
Dwarven Battle priest at least must ride one.
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by General Brave » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:49 pm

We should probably use the elephants as the base.
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by makazuwr32 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:53 pm

yea. but more browny and wooly.
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by Savra » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:56 pm

I thought elves would ride forestry creatures like tigers, sabertooths riders seemed to me as a match to orcs do to the way orcs act and feel. But if it is added to elves I'd like it to be a sentinels mount that would make sense for the heavy armour sentinels were in terms of elves.

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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by General Brave » Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:14 pm

Image
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by Lynx Shafir » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:04 am

I need a Mammoth for the Undeads - in cursed mine.
(Not mounted)
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by Tankhead » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:08 am

What's its bonus gonna be? What im really steering towards is does this unit have good bonus damage towards mounted units?
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by General Brave » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:09 am

We have to make the Dwarf one first.
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:12 am

That image is taken from AoS - Indian Mahout.
elven protector (mounted sentinel) will be heavy lancer unit type.
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by General Brave » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:14 am

What are we talking about?
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by Lynx Shafir » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:16 am

About 4 different unit :lol:
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by General Brave » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:19 am

And what are they.
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by Lynx Shafir » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:22 am

Orc-sabertooth
Elf - panther rider
Undead - skull mammoth
Dwarf - Mammoth rider
Any more?
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:27 am

....
Dwarf - not mammoth rider. for now at least. it is Dwarven Battle priest
Elf - Elven Protector (mounted on sabertooth variant of elf sentinel)

Skull mammoth a bit later.
Sabertooth rider of orcs is denied. 1. orcs have already great cavalry 2. in this variant it is ranged inti-building cavalry which is really bad for balance idea.
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by General Brave » Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:19 pm

Ok.
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by Savra » Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:18 pm

What about mountain goats for dwarfs like in the hobbit battle of the five army's? As maybe scouts of something...

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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by General Brave » Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:32 pm

I don't think that would be fast but perhaps maybe mountain climbing.
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by Tankhead » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:35 pm

You guys should make separate topics since the main topic here is sabertooth rider
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Re: Saber tooth rider

Post by General Brave » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:39 pm

Yes.
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