Teutonic Knight - IMPLEMENTED

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Teutonic Knight - IMPLEMENTED

Post by patroid » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:45 pm

Hi
A medival age german knight (means area where
Germany is today).
Cost:3
Power:10
Hp:14
Move:3
Resistance:50%
Bonus against:Buildings.

Units with bonus against him.
Mounted units 50-100%

And a image (not finished i will change sword move
To bittom right and change a fee details (like helmet))

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Re: Teutonic Knight

Post by ejm29 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:48 pm

Looks good! :)

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Re: Teutonic Knight

Post by patroid » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:18 pm

In my opinion much better.
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Re: Teutonic Knight

Post by patroid » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:24 pm

Hi
Ups a pixel has been left under the sword.

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Re: Teutonic Knight

Post by balint » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:53 pm

really cool!

the image is really nice too.
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Post by max-damage » Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:05 pm

Very cool, brah!! Maybe his attack power should be a little higher, though, don't you think? Maybe 12? The Teutonic knights were badasses!!! :-)
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Re: Teutonic Knight

Post by Stratego (dev) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:14 pm

coool! the fist image i like the best.

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Re: Teutonic Knight

Post by patroid » Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:06 pm

Hi
But its historically wrong.
They had have longswords.

Maybe a mix.

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Re: Teutonic Knight

Post by balint » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:30 pm

I really kike the last one.
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Post by ejm29 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:58 pm

Yep, thats my favorite!

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Post by max-damage » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:02 pm

I agree...very cool!! ;-)
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Re: Teutonic Knight

Post by Stratego (dev) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:10 pm

patroid wrote:Hi
But its historically wrong.
They had have longswords.

Maybe a mix.

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is it a longsword? if so than i like it the most! (instead of the "ear"-ed versions :))

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Re: Teutonic Knight

Post by COOLguy » Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:56 pm

Very cool. :)
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Re: Teutonic Knight

Post by max-damage » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:18 pm

A broadsword or Bastard sword is pretty hard to wield from a saddle...
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Re: Teutonic Knight

Post by COOLguy » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:19 pm

I don't think he's mounted - his speed is 3 too.
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Post by max-damage » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:23 pm

Oh, yeah...Good point...brain-fart... *TTTHHHHHHHHHPPPPPPPTTTT* pardon me... :oops:
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Re: Teutonic Knight

Post by balint » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:35 am

the bastard sword is hard to handle in one hand :) so it is not the greatest om a mount
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Re: Teutonic Knight

Post by Hardeep » Sat May 14, 2016 5:37 pm

He is super underpowered now that he is implemented...
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Re: Teutonic Knight IMPLEMENTED

Post by DoomCarrot » Sat May 14, 2016 7:54 pm

Exactly why people should not vote with infowars. Now even the alemeister himself realizes how unready this unit truly was. :lol:
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Re: Teutonic Knight IMPLEMENTED

Post by Hardeep » Sat May 14, 2016 8:57 pm

Its the reason people vote.
To get things done.
You wouldn't understand
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Re: Teutonic Knight IMPLEMENTED

Post by DoomCarrot » Sat May 14, 2016 10:34 pm

Did not support laborer, nuff said. :lol:
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Re: Teutonic Knight

Post by COOLguy » Sun May 15, 2016 2:35 am

Hardeep wrote:He is super underpowered now that he is implemented...
I noticed that while I was making the .json. But since they were the ones on the forum (and it was midnight) I decided just to roll with it.

What changes do you think? Make a post in the balancing section please.
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Re: Teutonic Knight IMPLEMENTED

Post by DoomCarrot » Sun May 15, 2016 11:58 am

Well, now that the infowars has given me the opportunity to voice my opinion, I shall do so. I have noticed a trend in making units more powerful because "unit a kills unit b too easy, so lets make unit b stronger." As you can see, this ancient topic is proof that units once upon a time were weaker. This issue has also forced us to lower turn costs of old units, and limited almost all units to a 2-4 turn cost. I think we should not make this unit stronger, but perhaps make one or two of its competing infantry weaker.

I have now voiced my opinion. Over and out :lol:
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Re: Teutonic Knight IMPLEMENTED

Post by Hardeep » Sun May 15, 2016 5:06 pm

:?
Okay........
Anyone else? :|
Maybe someone sensible?
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Re: Teutonic Knight IMPLEMENTED

Post by DoomCarrot » Sun May 15, 2016 5:40 pm

This far righter cannot comprehend new, bold ideas it seems. :lol:
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Re: Teutonic Knight IMPLEMENTED

Post by COOLguy » Mon May 16, 2016 12:35 am

I think we can balance this unit to the existing (balanced) units. I just don't know how people want it.
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Re: Teutonic Knight IMPLEMENTED

Post by DoomCarrot » Mon May 16, 2016 12:59 am

Then maybe just change its specialities. We really already have many anti-building inf. Why not make the tuetonic knight have specials against other inf? Like a maceman for inf, instead of buildings?

Because currently almost anything we alter on its basic stats are going to make it too similar to the maceman I think, unless we give it like... 2 move (heavy plate armour) and lots of attack and armors, which may also be an option. I am just very against outright buffing this unit to be a unit too similar and more effective than the maceman, as this encourages the issue I warned about earlier. :?
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Re: Teutonic Knight IMPLEMENTED

Post by TheBluePhoenix » Mon May 16, 2016 3:41 am

I still dont understand why this unit was made(and voted too) as it has nothing special and is just a historic unit which will sit in a corner never to be used till it is upgraded, similar too slinger, etc.
I would rather invest in swordsman rather than this....
And yes i dont have any idea to make it better because it will always become very much useless in long battles very soon. Even short battles can be won without it.
I think giving it a fighting + converting ability might make it useful, and this is historically true as they killed anyone who refused to accept christianity
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Re: Teutonic Knight IMPLEMENTED

Post by Hardeep » Mon May 16, 2016 6:30 am

There you go, fighting and coverting :)
Spell range one, same conversion chance, affected by persuasion, and a health and attack boost :D
Also a thing to consider, phoenix, not all units get used for multiplayer games, true, but in campaigns they add depth with their appearance. Spicing things up and looking badass. I could give royalty a bunch of man at arms as guards (looks bad) or templars (usually not fitting), or I could give some Teutonic Knights and call them the kings elite, and it would sell easily. :D
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Re: Teutonic Knight IMPLEMENTED

Post by TheBluePhoenix » Mon May 16, 2016 8:54 am

Hardeep wrote:There you go, fighting and coverting :)
Spell range one, same conversion chance, affected by persuasion, and a health and attack boost :D
Also a thing to consider, phoenix, not all units get used for multiplayer games, true, but in campaigns they add depth with their appearance. Spicing things up and looking badass. I could give royalty a bunch of man at arms as guards (looks bad) or templars (usually not fitting), or I could give some Teutonic Knights and call them the kings elite, and it would sell easily. :D
Very well , but i consider any unit useless which does not have a special meaning/sense/ability to make, and i detest them. The thing you said about their usefulness in campaigns is true, but then u should not forget the fact that there is a provision that such special region based unts(eg egyptians) are not buildable and votable, they are directly implemented and used for the very special purpose they are made for only, nothing else. But for this unit, we have voted for it and hence it ought to be useful, not just an eye candy in some campaign maps
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