Banner bearer - IMPLEMENTED

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Re: Banner bearer

Post by COOLguy » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:27 am

Ok How are these? One has a dagger. The other has a sword on his back, banner in right hand, shield in left.
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by ejm29 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:30 am

The second one is cool! :)

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Re: Banner bearer

Post by patroid » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:23 pm

:O
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by RiverRaider 1097 » Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:36 pm

Good idea will be help full in telling the difference between yellow and green at a glance. Will definitely become main target on the front lines, I believe he will need to start with at least a 1 or 2 in armour if he can draw a lot of fire and take it. Will ease the pressure on nearby units.
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by Stratego (dev) » Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:01 am

nice image!
we need finalized stats and votes for him

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Re: Banner bearer

Post by DoomCarrot » Wed Mar 18, 2015 7:05 pm

Banner carriers were typically not meant for combat, they were used as a way to differentiate between different forces. Most average soldiers wore little more than leather or wool tunics, with the more elite soldiers wearing mail or plate. Because soldiers on the battlefield often looked so similar, chaos could easily errupt as ally turned against ally, not sure of whose side the other was on. Banner wielders were mostly used on the battlefield to solve this issue.

However, it was also a huge moral boost to see your country's (or house's) banner still flying. yet another purpose.

So how about a ladder bearer increased loyalty by 50% or something to everyone within 2 spaces. and he could add plus one attack like op said. That way it would help organize your forces and make them a formidable force, like they were meant to in real life.

And yeah, they should not carry a shield. A sword would be more proper. The flag is not a pike, it is a banner....
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by poeticquestion » Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:36 am

HP 25
Attack 2
Armor 1
Pierce armor 3
Speed 3
Cost 6
Resistance to conversion, 100%
Sight 3
+1 Attack, and 50% loyalty to all friendly units within 2 square radius.

Just my thought on the stats from what ive read so far. Is this okay?
I also like Coolguys 2nd banner bearer. Looks pretty dope.
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by DoomCarrot » Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:38 pm

Thats there some nice stats :)
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by ejm29 » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:11 am

Those stats look good to me :)

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Re: Banner bearer

Post by Alex486 » Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:55 pm

I think the amour needs to be higher. Maybe a 3 or 4 including pierce armor since the unit really can't attack anything. make it hard to kill. the Hussar that has 35 HP and pierce armor of 2 is cut down with 6 upgraded crossbow men shots.
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by poeticquestion » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:12 pm

Actually the hungarian hussar has 25 hp and pierce armor of 3 as well. If the bearer had more hp or armor the cost would need to be higher than 6. Reason why i believe it should be 6 is because it gives everyone in a 2 square radius a +1 and 50% loyalty. Sure it doesnt attack but its strength is the numbers it buffs up.
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by Alexander82 » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:15 pm

After all we can find out by playing if it needs adjustments or not
And you have to think if you'd prefer to have 5 hussars or 4 ussars near a banner bearer
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by DoomCarrot » Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:28 am

Alex486 wrote:I think the amour needs to be higher. Maybe a 3 or 4 including pierce armor since the unit really can't attack anything. make it hard to kill. the Hussar that has 35 HP and pierce armor of 2 is cut down with 6 upgraded crossbow men shots.

The unit is meant to be somehwat weak. He is not a soldier, he is a strategic unit for buffing your armies
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by max-damage » Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:17 am

I realize I'm late on this (yet another) topic, but since it doesn't seem to be in-game, yet...i like the unit idea, but the banner bearer was basically a non-combat unit...while yes, the banners were used for group identification, they were also used by commanders to coordinate troop movements and maneuvers...think along the lines of british semaphore (flag-signalling)...buti agreed they should have an attack ability, though a weak one...after all, any schmoe can pick up a rock and bust an enemy in the head with it... ;-)
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by DoomCarrot » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:25 pm

max-damage wrote:I realize I'm late on this (yet another) topic, but since it doesn't seem to be in-game, yet...i like the unit idea, but the banner bearer was basically a non-combat unit...while yes, the banners were used for group identification, they were also used by commanders to coordinate troop movements and maneuvers...think along the lines of british semaphore (flag-signalling)...buti agreed they should have an attack ability, though a weak one...after all, any schmoe can pick up a rock and bust an enemy in the head with it... ;-)
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Banner/Standard

Post by Hardeep » Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:14 am

A banner that is built off of you team colour,it would give +1 armour and +1 attack for a range of 3 tiles
20 health
2 armour
4 pierce armour
3 sight
Garrisonable:no

The name could be standard or banner. What do you think? Lets get some votes or suggestions going.
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Re: Banner/Standard

Post by Alexander82 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:44 am

there is a old proposal, the banner bearer
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by Stratego (dev) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:48 am

merged.

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Re: Banner bearer

Post by Alexander82 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:34 pm

Btw i like patroid banner bearer but with coolguy's banner
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by COOLguy » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:42 am

Maybe I can montage them together. :)
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by COOLguy » Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:50 pm

A good compromise?
(Sorry, I changed patroid's guy's pants because the grey looked shiny and was hard to tell apart.) :)
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by ejm29 » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:02 pm

That look great! But I think his legs might need re-doing. As there quite "chunky" compared to his torso, and his boots are a little big for him :)

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Re: Banner bearer

Post by COOLguy » Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:21 pm

Okay, I will look at that.
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by COOLguy » Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:49 pm

How is this?
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by COOLguy » Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:49 pm

Now it looks a little odd, maybe. :) :P Maybe I should edit the legs again a bit?
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by Alexander82 » Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:01 am

why don't you just leave the pants as they were byt change the color with brown or with team color?
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by COOLguy » Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:51 am

Well I think his legs are still in an odd position but it is better than the "ballerina" pose of mine. ;)
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by COOLguy » Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:04 am

Maybe something like this?
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by Alexander82 » Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:32 am

I like it :)
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Re: Banner bearer

Post by COOLguy » Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:05 pm

Thanks!
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