Rebalancing of Axe knight

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Rebalancing of Axe knight

Post by makazuwr32 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:23 pm

I suggest for Axe knights Give them 50% bonus against Cavalries and Gime them Immunity to the "Camel Fear" aura while keeping their current stats.
This way they'll become much more intresting unit with some uniqueness.
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Re: Rebalancing of Axe knight

Post by COOLguy » Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:55 am

Interesting. Why should it do that? (be immune)

I'll try to have a look at the original post and see what the axe rider was for.
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Re: Rebalancing of Axe knight

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:00 am

there is incoming another unit with fear which also is more availible than Mammelucks.
So i think there could be some fearless anti-cavalry unit but with less bonuses than lancer's.
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Re: Rebalancing of Axe knight

Post by Sunrise Samurai » Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:34 pm

Alternative suggestion: make axe knight a mounted version of axe thrower. This would make it a short ranged anti building cavalry, perfect for lighting fast raids on structures.
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Re: Rebalancing of Axe knight

Post by godOfKings » Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:20 am

but then chariots would b totally useless , (unless the spacious chariots and other upgrade tech r implemented)
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Re: Rebalancing of Axe knight

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:01 am

there is incoming tech for chariots to upgrade them but still i don't like idea of throwing axe mounted unit.
especially when there is incoming total rebalance of normal axe thrower.
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Re: Rebalancing of Axe knight

Post by DoomCarrot » Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:25 pm

The axe knight was supposed to just be a weak, cheaper knight.... According to its main supporters *cough infowars cough* it was mainly just for campaign maps. I really have not found too much use for it except in small maps, where even being able to make a tough cavalry unit in a turn less is a big deal.

The thing about it is that it is barely competitive with the knight, but it has no upgrades. So if you are willing to invest more than 4-8 turns in cavalry, the knight is hands down the way to go, or even hussars if you value speed and bonsues. In situations where you need cavalry ASAP, the light cavalry is usually a better choice, as it can get where it needs to be quicker, and fully upgraded can take down an axe knight in a head on head fight.

I think the best way to make the axe knight useful is giving it MASSIVE bonuses against siege weaponry, especially battering rams and wagons (I am talking 2-1 hit kill, respectively). Which would make sense (axes can easily cleave through wood, especially on a galloping horse) and it would make it useful in certain tactical situations. Such as when someone starts attacking with wagons and battering rams, and wagons full of battering rams full of soldiers. :lol:
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Re: Rebalancing of Axe knight

Post by godOfKings » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:10 pm

I got an idea, how about axe knight has 0 armor, no bonus and double action, does they actually become fast and brutal, if 16 DMG is too much their base atk could b 7 or 6

The pic should b changed to show he is wielding two axes instead of a shield
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Re: Rebalancing of Axe knight

Post by makazuwr32 » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:15 pm

They can just hold horse's rein with second hand instead of shield.
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Re: Rebalancing of Axe knight

Post by COOLguy » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:40 pm

DoomCarrot wrote:I think the best way to make the axe knight useful is giving it MASSIVE bonuses against siege weaponry, especially battering rams and wagons (I am talking 2-1 hit kill, respectively). Which would make sense (axes can easily cleave through wood, especially on a galloping horse) and it would make it useful in certain tactical situations. Such as when someone starts attacking with wagons and battering rams, and wagons full of battering rams full of soldiers.
I am intrigued
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Re: Rebalancing of Axe knight

Post by godOfKings » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:47 pm

I think it should b renamed to mounted wood cutter :lol:

if a 3 turn flail soldier can kill a 7 turn Spartan in one hit, I wouldn't b surprised to see another 3 turn unit kill a 4 turn wagon in one hit, so I support whatever decision is taken regarding bonus, and I m kind of angry with the op nature of wagons frankly, especially wen u just capture a tc, put a wagon in it to keep it filled while the enemy castle is busy killing Ur 'visible' units, and after 2 turns u drag Ur newly created Shielder into the wagon, bring wagon next to castle and then bring Shielder out to strike a fatal blow, suddenly a newly created shielder starts moving 7 tiles in a turn
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