Mapeditor Units to be buildable units

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Mapeditor Units to be buildable units

Post by Moh556 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:40 pm

There are some groups of units in aos that they cant be trained . Many of them are national units for example saracens and egyptians or crusaders many of us like these units and want to train and use them in random games and maybe in some campaign missions because they are nice in some battles...
We already have an empty page in upgrades menu(empty slots after arbalest pillar and immortal pillar)
We can use these slots to put these units
We have ready jsons for all of them ..only thing is puting COST for them . many of them must have 2 or 3 cost
just cavaliers have 4
some of them have 5or 6 cost(crusader lord)
i think they are useful units

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Re: Units

Post by Gral.Sturnn » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:59 pm

The reason they arent in multiplauer is beacuse they would be a hell to balance, thus they are only abailable in map making were balance doesent matter
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Re: Units

Post by godOfKings » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:19 pm

More like, most of them have same or similar stats to the basic swordsman/archer/knight etc. so they become redundant

They r mainly used as different skins to the original unit in campaign to make it more historically realistic
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Re: Units

Post by Moh556 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:43 pm

The most important reason for me in this post is puting all nations units in use ...
Maybe some egyptian player loves to use his own
Nation s unit in all types of missions

We cant put away units just because we have same type of unit in use
When we can train spartans in all missions or train samurais in missions like paths of rome :)
This is a game .. not real ;)

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Re: Units

Post by Stratego (dev) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:57 pm

those are initially mapeditor units only.

if u can underline a few units from them that worth being trainable ones - than tell us.

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Re: Units

Post by Moh556 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:22 am

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Re: Units

Post by godOfKings » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:21 am

@Moh556 if u really want them in u have to do research, it takes time to study stats of units and i cannot give this time to mapeditor units, if u REALLY want them in main game, then make a list of units with their stats from the game, and give the possible cost and builder for these units, post them here, and we can discuss how we can implement them in main game

but somebody first have to list everything and i m not that interested to do it
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Re: Units

Post by Moh556 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:00 am

Ok

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Re: Units

Post by Moh556 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:20 am

SARACENS
SARACEN WARRIOR
Cost 2
Hp 13
Atack 10
Range 1
Armor0
Parmor0
Speed3
Sight 5
Spell resistance 100%
SARACEN PIKER
Cost 2
Hp 12
Atack 6
Range 1
Armor0
Parmor0
Speed3
Sight5
Spell resistance 40%
SARACEN ARCHER
Cost 2
Hp15
Atack3
Range4
Armor0
Parmor0
Speed3
sight5
Spell resistance100%
SARACEN RIDER
cost4
Hp30
Atack11
Range1
Armor1
Parmor2
Speed5
Sight6
Spell resistance100%

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Re: Units

Post by Moh556 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:46 am

CRUSADERS
CRUSADER
cost 3
Hp15
Atack10
Range1
Armor0
Parmor0
Speed3
Sight5
Spell resistance40%
VETERAN CRUSADER
Cost4
Hp20
Atack12
Range1
Armor1
Parmor1
Speed3
Sight5
Spell resistance50%
CRUSADER ARCHER
cost3
Hp14
Atack6
Range6
Armor1
Parmor0
Speed3
Sight7
Spell resistance40%
CRUSADER HORSEMAN
cost5
hp30
atack8
range1
armor1
parmor1
speed5
sight5
spell resistance30%
VETERAN CRUSADER HORSEMAN
cost6
Hp35
Atack12
Range1
Armor2
Parmor2
Speed5
Sight6
Spell resistance50%
CRUSADER LORD
cost8
Hp55 :o
Atack16 :?
Range1
Armor4
Parmor4
Speed5
Sight8 :shock: (near a sniper
Spell resistance 100%
We dont need thisone really
He can fight with a dragon lol

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Re: Units

Post by Moh556 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:06 am

EGYPTIANS
EGYPTIAN PELTAST
cost3
hp10
atack11
range1
armor0
parmor0
speed3
sight4
spell resistance0%
EGYPTIAN SWORDSMAN
cost3
Hp18
Atack10
Range1
Armor0
Parmor0
Speed3
Sight4
Spell resistance0%
EGYPTIAN HERO SWORDSMAN
cost4
hp18
atack10
range1
armor1
parmor1
speed4
sight4
spell100%
NILE SPEAR MAN
cost5
Hp24
Atack10
Range1
Armor2
P armor5
Speed3
Sight4
Spell resistance100%
EGYPTIAN CHARIOTER
cost6
Hp40
Atack10
Range4
Armor2
Parmor2
Speed4
Sight5
Spell resistance40%
I edited some of stats because they was crazy powerful

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Re: Units

Post by godOfKings » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:15 am

wat about bonus, they didnt have bonus? just give the gist, how much percent and against which type of units, infantry, buildings, cavalry or archers etc.
u can edit ur top post by clicking the tiny pencil image block on the top right next to the post
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Re: Units

Post by Moh556 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:16 am

SPANISH
SPANISH REDELERO
Cost4
hp25
atack12
range1
armor2
parmor2
speed3
sight4
spell resistane50%
SPANISH CROSSBOW
Cost3
Hp20
Atack7
Range4
Armor0
Parmor1
Speed3
Sight5
Spell resistance0%
SPANISH RIDER
cost5
Hp32
Atack10
Range1
Armor1
Parmor1
Speed 5
Sight5
Spell resistance40%

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Re: Units

Post by Moh556 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:17 am

I will do it

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Re: Units

Post by Moh556 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:21 am

JANISSARY
Cost3
Hp27
Atack 10
Range1
Armor0
Parmor0
Speed3
Sight4
Spell resistance100%

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Re: Units

Post by Moh556 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:26 am

There are some units that dont have descrition texting::

Egyptian peltast
Janissary
Spanish redelero
Spanish rider

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Re: Units

Post by Moh556 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:33 am

MELE units bonus:
Cost 2and 3
Against mele units 40%
Against ranged units50%
Against cavalry units20%
Against siege weapons75%
against buildigs50%
cost4 and 5
against mele units 50%
Against ranged units 80%
Against cavalry units 40%
Against siege weapons100%
Against buildings 100%

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Re: Units

Post by Moh556 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:49 am

CAVALRY UNITS BONUS
cost 4 and 5
against mele units50%
Against ranged units100%
Against cavalry units20%
Against siege weapons 100%
Against buildings 20%
Cost 6
Against mele units 50%
Against ranged units 100%
Against cavalry units30%
Against siege weapons 100%
Against buildings30%

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Re: Units

Post by Moh556 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:54 am

RANGED UNITS
COST2AND 3
Againast mele units20%
Against ranged units 50%
Against siege weapons :) %
Against buildings :) %
Cost up to 3
Against mele units20%
Against ranged units 50%
Against siege weapons :) %
Against buildins :) %

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Re: Units

Post by Moh556 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:16 am

Some units textings they that dont have textings
*egyptian peltast*
Peltasts was one of the best spearmen in asia
They use small shields that made from wood but very good and light for defence many of them can throw spears to range 100 meters
*Janissary*
Janissary were otoman and turk elite forces and sword masters who defended sultans castles very good. they
Use scimitar sword to avoid enemy attacks
*spanish redelero*
Redelero with a small shield and shortsword have a good
attack speed to destroy enemy their armor was light just like his weapons
*spanish rider*
One of the fastest horses in world are in spain . This helped spanish riders to be one of the best cavaliers in history . Riders trained hard to use these horses and capture enemy camps as well

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Re: Units

Post by godOfKings » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:40 am

the common rule is that, melee units only have bonus against buildings, archers bonus against melee, skirmishers against archers, cavalry against all 3 and siege BUT not against buildings, while spear units against cavalry, so dont just spout of random bonus, give the ones in game already

and as i said. edit ur top posts by clicking pencil icon, and give the in-game bonus below each unit
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Re: Units

Post by Moh556 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:19 am

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Re: Units

Post by Moh556 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:20 am

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We can use the same bonuses from similar units
I will edit...

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Re: Units

Post by Moh556 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:42 am

God of kings help me to edit :|

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Re: Units

Post by Puss_in_Boots » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:46 pm

To edit a post you have to click on the pencil icon on the top right corner of your post.
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Re: Mapeditor Units to be buildable units

Post by Stratego (dev) » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:48 pm

i have also renamed topic to be more descriptive.

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Re: Units

Post by godOfKings » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:09 pm

Moh556 wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:42 am
God of kings help me to edit :|
This is the best i can do, if u still dont get then its hopeless :(
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Re: Mapeditor Units to be buildable units

Post by StormSaint373 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:25 pm

Some AoS units aren't categorized, I'll have you know... They're that old.
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Re: Mapeditor Units to be buildable units

Post by Moh556 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:44 am

God of kings i know that :)
Imean help me and post some bonus ..
These units are many

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Re: Mapeditor Units to be buildable units

Post by godOfKings » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:59 pm

For now, no need to mention percentage, just against which it has bonus, we also need to think of buildings to produce them, will they b church units? And we need to implement kasbah for saracean and where will Egyptian b made?
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