Horse archer third upgrade

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Horse archer third upgrade

Post by Morningwarrior » Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:40 am

Elite horse archer(horse archer third upgrade).
HP:35
damage:7
Armor:2
Pierce armor:2
Speed:6
Sight:7
Range:7
Cost:4
Actions:1
The third upgrade of horse archer,more resistence,more speed,more fear for enemy.
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Re: Horse archer third upgrade

Post by Endru1241 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:56 am

Just look at other archery upgrades.
7 range is reserved for longbow.
No ranged unit ever gets speed (only ballista, but it's siege machine).
Why would it suddenly get so much armor?

So if we'll be doing 3rd upgrade in the future, I'd say
33 hp, 1/0 armor, 7power. Rest of the stats the same as 2nd one. Just to survive base halbeldier/heavy lancer (without blacksmith, reach and auras).

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Re: Horse archer third upgrade

Post by makazuwr32 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:59 am

I suggest to follow rule of previous tier:
+6 hp, +1 attack (but mo range increase though). Since tier 2 didn't get any armor tier 3 also shouldn't.
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Re: Horse archer third upgrade

Post by Puss_in_Boots » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:37 am

We should give defenders and halberds a third tier before upgrading horse archers.
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Re: Horse archer third upgrade

Post by Endru1241 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:47 pm

While I am not especially firm on the need of horse archer next upgrade - they would need at least crossbow-arbalest upgrade stats, thus melee armor and hp to at least survive unboosted halbeldier and heavy lancer (as arbalest survives heavy knight/hussar). Halbeldiers and defenders both definitely don't need an upgrade. Especially comparing to horse archers. Because they fill they role (defender has good armor and hp - stats on 3rd tier level and halbeldier could survive a little more, but his attack is cavalry bane - too strong if You ask me) and with cavalier pierce armor, 6 power becomes a little too less.

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Re: Horse archer third upgrade

Post by Morningwarrior » Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:09 am

this part of 6 damage i do agree to but the horseman archer's third upgrade should have at least 1 armor point and pierce armor
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Re: Horse archer third upgrade

Post by Endru1241 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:07 am

Yeah. You are right ranged resilence gain should also be proportional to arbalest, so - 33HP, 1/1 armor, 7 power.

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Re: Horse archer third upgrade

Post by Morningwarrior » Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:48 pm

Well is very equilibrate for the game i guess.
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