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Armies of the Dark Lord

Post by Sunrise Samurai » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:07 pm

Part of the overall redesign on elites and subraces. This one is the uruk line, but I intend to add a few more so it's not so bare

Call to Mordor
Cost 6, unlocks tier 1

Tier 1
All current uruks, except olog

Black Gate
Cost 4
Hp 90
Armor 4/15
Power 1 (fear weapon)
Actions 0

Black Wall
Cost 4
Hp 130
Armor 4/15
Power 1 (fear weapon)
Actions 0

Black Tower
Cost 7
Hp 110
Armor 2/15
Power 7
Range 6
Actions 3
Capacity 2
Heal rate 4

(Stone pile and stone shelter are to be locked down an alternative line. These are more appropriate for a LOTR theme)

Emissaries of the Dark Lord
Cost 7, unlocks tier 2

Tier 2
Uruk upgrades 1-2

Minas Morgul
Cost 25
Hp 1200
Armor 4/15
Power 7 (fear weapon)
Range 6
Actions 2
Size 2x3
Capacity 4
Heal rate 4
Can build uruks, ologs, and any other units in this line.

Oaths to the Eye
Cost 8, unlocks tier 3

Tier 3
Olog Hai

Uruk upgrade 3


More to follow later. Any LOTR obsessed individuals *cough* LordOfAles *cough* are encouraged to offer further suggestions.
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord

Post by Savra » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:38 pm

Ummm, if you do the upgrades for uruks right now without getting troll upgraded and such you'll end up with according to this, Uruks xp3 and Olog xp 1 I suggest allowing ologs to come in with rest of uruks and just have the other tiers effect only the upgrades and builds.

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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord

Post by LordOfAles » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:20 am

Half of the post doesn't canonically make sense.

Changes:

1. Uruk-Hai were breed of orc and humans, made in Isengard. Black Uruks were uruks made in mordor (of course not bred). Remove uruk hais from post.

2. Olog Hais weren't half uruk half trolls. They were advanced trolls immune to sunlight so i want to exclude them as well from the list.

3. Only iconic monuments and buildings in mordor have "Black" in their name. Black Gate, Black Towers (The towers at the gate) etc. Name these "Mordor Gates", "Mordor Walls", etc.

4. Minas Morgul is a MUST unique building. There is only one and only Minas Morgul. Also Minas Morgul tower doesn't just "shoot". It emmits fear so fear aura of 2-3 would make sense with no ranged attack.

Suggestions:

1. Nazguls and Nazgul Riders trainable at Minas Morgul.
Nazgul cost 5
Nazgul Rider cost 6
Fell Beast Rider cost 7

2. Mordor Orc Pit
Cost: 3
Hp: 20
Armor: 1/7
Trains:
Mordor Orc Warrior cost 1
Mordor Orc Archer cost 1
Mordor Orc Spearman cost 1
Researches "Orc Draught" tech
3. Black Uruk Barracks
Cost: 15
Hp: 50
Armor: 2/8
Trains:
Black Uruk Warrior cost 4
Black Uruk Archer cost 4
Black Uruk Pikeman cost 4
4. Troll Cage
Cost: 20
Hp: 60
Armor: 1/10
Trains:
Mordor Troll cost 5
Mordor Troll Drummer cost 4
Olog Hai (An actual olog hai) cost 7
I will make separate topics to describe each unit and building soon. I made this on the run and maybe i will suggest some more ideas later.
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord

Post by Savra » Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:23 am

You could call the Olog Hai a Morder Olog hai. It would avoid confusion between the age of fantasy variant and the actual Lotr variant. Also you could add morder warg riders, since wargs were in morder as well. In fact they originated from their.

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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord

Post by LordOfAles » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:36 pm

I wanted to add wargs but, too little units for a building. Warg rider, warg (ai-controlled) warg kamikaze.

Also i wanted to add for now:

TIER 1:
Mordor Orc Pit and it's trainables

TIER 2:

Minas Morgul and Nazgul and Nazgul Rider
Black Uruk Barracks and Black Uruk Warrior

TIER 3:

Fell Beast Rider, Black Uruk Pikeman, Black Uruk Archer, Troll Cage and it's trainables.
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord

Post by Savra » Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:06 pm

Warg rider archer
Warg rider
Feral warg
Warg pen
Warg rider captain.

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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord

Post by Sunrise Samurai » Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:59 pm

@LordOfAles could you make stats for these units I can post here. I think it's fine to reskin and rename the current uruks to black uruks so they fit better in theme.
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord

Post by LordOfAles » Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:17 pm

I'd rather not until @Alexander82 agrees on this topic.
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord

Post by Savra » Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:59 pm

Sunrise Samurai wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:59 pm
@LordOfAles could you make stats for these units I can post here. I think it's fine to reskin and rename the current uruks to black uruks so they fit better in theme.
I'd prefer leaving the original uruks in and adding these as separate like they are in the books. Black uruks are stronger were Uruks just have better armour and weapons. Black urine also have more experience then saurumans uruks due to the fact that the Uruks were trained through village raids while Black Uruks were trained through taking on bigger target s.

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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord

Post by LordOfAles » Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:08 am

Savra is completely right. We just wait for Alex to see this now.
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord

Post by Savra » Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:35 am

Might I suggest changing the black towers name to mordor tower of monolith?

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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord

Post by Sunrise Samurai » Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:06 pm

LordOfAles wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:17 pm
I'd rather not until @Alexander82 agrees on this topic.
He says that you're the more knowledgeable about the lore. Feel free.
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord

Post by Savra » Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:38 pm

Would these be what you had in mind for black uruks?
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord

Post by LordOfAles » Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:21 pm

1st and 3rd is good. 2nd are mordor orcs. If you plan to draw the 3rd just remove that white hand and change shape of helmet a bit like giving him more horns.
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord

Post by StormSaint373 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:25 pm

Nice!
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord

Post by Savra » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:36 am

Alright.

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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord

Post by Savra » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:23 am

Some more for here. I like these ones better. Considering ones actually black uruks, the right ones.
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