Warmage apprentice

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Warmage apprentice

Post by Midonik » Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:17 pm

Warmage apprentice (bulid in mage hut)
Cost: 5
Hp: 25
Attack: 8 (spear, standard bonuses to cav), 10 (sword, standard bonuses to bulidings), can switch between them with transform albilty
Range: 1
Armor: 1/1
Vision: 4
Speed: 3
Actions: 1
Spells: Strengthen (self), Regeneration potion (one time use, 100% regeneration, range 1)
The warmages gets mentor aura that gives them some attack maybe.
Those young mens learns from the warmages how to fight and cast spells. They don't fight so well and knows only some basic spells. The warmages often gives them their burden - they carry an regeneration potion that can be used only once and regens 100% HP, they are also obligated to carry not only a sword, but also a spear to support their masters against cavarly.

Slightly edited idea of Storm, it's a main human's unit to be clear.
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Re: Warmage adept

Post by StormSaint373 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:03 pm

I like the concept for an apprentice/ squire unit.
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Re: Warmage adept

Post by Midonik » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:17 pm

APPRENTICE! I wanted to call it like that at the first place but I didn't know how to spell it.
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Re: Warmage apprentice

Post by StormSaint373 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:56 pm

Glad to help. :D
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Re: Warmage apprentice

Post by Midonik » Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:56 pm

Perhaps it's too weak for 5 cost in mage hut? We can give it self flame and lighting weapons, it's quite a basic spell for warmage I guess.
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Re: Warmage apprentice

Post by Savra » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:57 pm

Regeneration potion isn't a spell technically, it's a potion made from herbs.

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Re: Warmage apprentice

Post by StormSaint373 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:22 pm

I think that it would be best to go by the following for mage units...

At minimum...

1. Defense/Buff: direct (double Strike, strengthen, trample, etc) indirect (disenchant)
1. Offense: direct (fireball, thunderstorm, magic missle, etc,) indirect (curse, fear, disenchant)
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Re: Warmage apprentice

Post by Midonik » Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:20 am

Well I disagree in that case. Given that boi is going to be a warmage, he can only have spells that the warmage has. The only warmage's spell that is offensive is the magic missile, and if that unit has magic missile, that is rather advanced spell I guess... Also, the magic missile is a strong spell, and you additionally can buff him with double strike. 20 armor ignoring damage at range of 5 for 5 turns, I would need to calculate but I won't bother making warmages I think, when that can probably cast more missiles/turn.
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Re: Warmage apprentice

Post by Midonik » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:55 pm

Well so I made some calculations about that:
15 turns - 3 apprentices (if they had magic missile) - once all are buffed with double strike, they can deal 60 damage/turn with that spell. They would had 75 hp and 1/1 armor each.
16 turns - 2 warmages - if both have double strike, they deal 60 damage/turn. They have 80 hp and 3/3 armour.
Well, a one turn more for a 5 hp and 2/2 armour seems good. Well, there are some things to consider - if you have 3 apprentices, it's harder to buff them, but than more units, than more armour checks the attacks needs to pass, and well in some cases it also needs more attacks. Also you can attack in different places and split with appreciates. The appreciates doesn't have a lifelink, and if we gave the the missile then also both weapon buffs, but they have a 100% regeneration potion, one per each, that can, to be sure, grant them better survivability, and they also have higher melee damage against cavarly thanks to spear version.
Well I need to ask you if you think that situation (the same stats as in the first post, but with magic miss). Certainly it needs to make appreciate and keep warmage useful to be acceptable.
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Re: Warmage apprentice

Post by General Brave » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:29 am

You put some thought into this, hopefully people can balance it out.
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Re: Warmage apprentice

Post by Lynx Shafir » Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:47 am

Suggestion,
Make as "only" mage apprentice.

He'll chose later wich way to follow (battle, support,sorcerous, tricks, or study in an old library)

May be a buffer with one weak offence.
And one "unique" from list of future mages.

Eg "torch" spell - reveals a 3x3 spots in map - shows stealth and such.


And till ork mages are in TC we can put this there too.
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Re: Warmage apprentice

Post by Midonik » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:56 pm

Well that's a complicated version.
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